Civilization 7 Pre-Launch Discussion

[Brian Boru]

No Workers / Builders!

This Door Monster 3m video captures the social impact of this heartless Civ 7 decision.

 

[Zloth]

This Door Monster 3m video captures the social impact of this heartless Civ 7 decision.

"Nobody ever thinks of the barbarians." Bismark does! He captures plenty... in 5 anyway.

 

[Colif]

Brian needs a new PC

Civilization VII recommends 16 cores and 32GB RAM for 4K gameplay — RTX 4070 or RX 7800XT is the minimum

However, the CPU and GPU requirements do seem a bit more reasonable.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[Brian Boru]

Brian needs a new PC

Tru dat.

But not for Civ 7 in 2030s. Small maps v 3-4 opponents, graphic extras turned off, 1080p—there are advantages to being one of the most customizable games.

I suspect those 4K reqs are to leave headroom for the expansions in 2027-8. They may want to experiment with using AI to power the… well, AI

Max the CPU, if you must save, do so on GPU—you can play with low graphics, but not with slow CPU unless you want 'Just one more minute' between early turns.

 

[Zloth]

Take him down, Brian!!

Mark Zuckerberg reckons he's a Civilization 'grandmaster' who could beat 'anyone in the world,' and we should all brace ourselves for his Twitch career

Beware: Zuck's words are backed by nuclear weapons.

www.pcgamer.com

 

[Brian Boru]

Take him down, Brian!!

I've delegated:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbo5qiXi1f0

 

[ZedClampet]

Brace yourselves Civ fans: Civilization 7 is going to be contentious among critics and fans

Early coverage has focused on how big the changes are, but whether or not they'll be popular is another question.

www.pcgamer.com

Will be interesting to see what the overall sentiment is.

 

[Pifanjr]

Civilization 7 review

Lighter and leaner, Civilization 7 sets its sights on assimilating a new audience.

www.pcgamer.com

I believe this is the lowest review score a Civilization game has gotten on this site.

It's kind of weird that the review claims that the World Congress was cut from the game when it was only added in an expansion for Civ 5 and Civ 6. Similarly, governments, religion and espionage were not always included in the base game and were either added or expanded upon in expansions as well.

I personally don't particularly mind the diplomatic system being simplified. The main thing I used it for was to trade surplus luxury resources for other surplus luxury resources. Though it's a shame that even with simplified diplomacy the AI seems to still be bad at it.

I'm not sure about the new system for city-states and barbarians and the complaints about the UI are worrisome, but hopefully they'll address some of that in the two expansions. I'll just wait and see.

 

[ZedClampet]

Civilization 7 review

Lighter and leaner, Civilization 7 sets its sights on assimilating a new audience.

www.pcgamer.com

I believe this is the lowest review score a Civilization game has gotten on this site.

It's kind of weird that the review claims that the World Congress was cut from the game when it was only added in an expansion for Civ 5 and Civ 6. Similarly, governments, religion and espionage were not always included in the base game and were either added or expanded upon in expansions as well.

I personally don't particularly mind the diplomatic system being simplified. The main thing I used it for was to trade surplus luxury resources for other surplus luxury resources. Though it's a shame that even with simplified diplomacy the AI seems to still be bad at it.

I'm not sure about the new system for city-states and barbarians and the complaints about the UI are worrisome, but hopefully they'll address some of that in the two expansions. I'll just wait and see.

Regarding the UI, IGN states: "It’s frustratingly inadequate at providing me with the information I need to play well, or even understand what's going on sometimes."

As you say, it will probably be fleshed out in expansions; however, and without having played it yet I have no idea, but Total War Warhammer was widely praised for simplifying and streamlining, but Civ 7 is criticized for it (at least by some reviewers).

PC Gamer had an article about how divisive the game was likely to be, and they mentioned one of the aspects that you mention, "Civ 7 is also going to have the same problem every Civ has: Those who've been playing Civilization 6 with the Rise and Fall and Gathering Storm expansions and all the other DLC may find that it feels slight."

The metacritic average review score sits at 81 percent, but only has 1 negative review and 9 middling reviews, so it looks like it launches as a solid game that will likely improve over time.