Any good ARPG worth looking at?

[Colif]

So I have played Diablo 2 & 3, All the Torchlights, Both good Sacred games.
I have downloaded POE but I have played it several times in the past, I had it before it was released and have played it at least 4 times, but I don't really like it. It feels clunky. And build tree is daunting.
Grim Dawn - I played an early version of this and its completely different now.

Anything new I should look at?

unlike Brian, I mostly play 3rd person games.

 

[Pifanjr]

Ever tried Titan Quest? It got an anniversary edition that polished it a bit so it doesn't feel too old and is generally considered a classic.

 

[Colif]

The people who made Titan Quest now make Grim Dawn. I had Titan Quest long ago. I didn't like how areas don't respawn after you been through them.

 

[Zloth]

Are you looking specifically for isometric? There aren't many like that now, but there are a LOT of Action RPGs.

 

[Elfeano]

What about Diablo immortal ?

 

[mainer]

Grim Dawn - I played an early version of this and its completely different now.

It definitely plays better now than it did on release, and Crate Entertainment is constantly updating the game, the most recent was just on 06/21/22.

Grim Dawn - Grim Dawn V1.1.9.6 is now live! - Steam News

We are pleased to have our latest bug fix and balancing update in your hands. With V1.1.9.6, we have revisited ranged weapons and made them a much more viable endgame choice in general, compared to the limited selection from before. Likewise, we reviewed many niche playstyles and improved the...

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As far as isometric ARPGs go, I could think of of two, and those are on my Steam Wish List. One is Wolcen:: Lords of Mayhem. It still has mixed reviews on Steam, and from what I've read the initial release was buggy and incomplete, but Wolcen Studio has since made several updates to fix things. I haven't purchased it yet, but it always looks interesting.

Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem on Steam

Carve your path in this Hack’n’Slash free from class boundaries. Purify a world shattered by corruption, and uncover the grim secrets and forgotten horrors lurking in the shadows of this forsaken land as you rise in Power. Your Inner aspect beckons—will you answer?

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The other is Last Epoch, but it's still in Early Access:

Last Epoch on Steam

Uncover the Past, Reforge the Future. Ascend into one of 15 mastery classes and explore dangerous dungeons, hunt epic loot, craft legendary weapons, and wield the power of over a hundred transformative skill trees. Last Epoch is being developed by a team of passionate Action RPG enthusiasts.

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Now, if you are interested in 3rd person ARPGs, like @Zloth said, there are a lot more to choose from, but those games you listed I've always considered to be isometric ARPGs.

 

[Brian Boru]

What about Diablo immortal ?

Yeah @Colif, what about that?
We could have a whip-around, or organize a Go Fund Me—or would Go Fu** Me be more like it?

 

[Colif]

I prefer the free version of what that game essentially is... hunt 6 5 star gems... profit?

$25 Rift Simulator

Gamble And Upgrade Diablo Immortal Legendary Gems for free

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it also shows how much it can cost just to get the 6 gems. Thats not the end, its just the start as getting the 5 star gems to rank 10 costs way more...

I am not exactly looking for isometric view, its just how they are I guess.
I will look at 2 games mentioned by Mainer
Wolcen still seems buggy from a video made 2 months ago.

should give Grim Dawn another chance.

Last Epoch looks interesting... will watch it as they still adding areas to game.

 

[dxchase]

Well, you have Diablo 2: Resurrected and, at this point, has ladders for you to climb. Yes its Diablo 2, but its a good remaster in my opinion.

Theres also Lost Ark which is F2P. I would at least give it a chance, it has good combat for an ARPG but its full of grindy MMO tropes if you can deal with it.

Lost Ark on Steam

Embark on an odyssey for the Lost Ark in a vast, vibrant world: explore new lands, seek out lost treasures, and test yourself in thrilling action combat in this action-packed free-to-play RPG.

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As far as isometric ARPGs go, I could think of of two, and those are on my Steam Wish List. One is Wolcen:: Lords of Mayhem. It still has mixed reviews on Steam, and from what I've read the initial release was buggy and incomplete, but Wolcen Studio has since made several updates to fix things. I haven't purchased it yet, but it always looks interesting.

Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem on Steam

Carve your path in this Hack’n’Slash free from class boundaries. Purify a world shattered by corruption, and uncover the grim secrets and forgotten horrors lurking in the shadows of this forsaken land as you rise in Power. Your Inner aspect beckons—will you answer?

store.steampowered.com

This game is not worth it imo and, although it looks pretty good, its kind of a boring ARPG. Its nothing like where they were heading with the game, but i guess if you are looking to expand your ARPG list, you can pick this up, but i say pass.

If you like Warhammer lore, there is this neat ARPG-style Warhammer game called Warhammer- Martyr, i like it, its ARPG with machine guns, bolt guns and other warhammer classics and its currently only 12.49 usd.

Warhammer 40,000: Inquisitor - Martyr on Steam

Enter the Chaos-infested Caligari Sector and purge the unclean with the most powerful agents of the Imperium of Man! W40k: Inquisitor – Martyr is a grim Action-RPG featuring multiple classes of the Inquisition who will carry out the Emperor’s will.

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Grim Dawn is an excellent game.

The people who made Titan Quest now make Grim Dawn. I had Titan Quest long ago. I didn't like how areas don't respawn after you been through them.

Titan Quest also had a new DLC introduced sometime within the last year, i dont know if this problem exists still for you but, it does have new DLC (enemies,map, items etc.)

 

[mainer]

@DXCHASE - Thanks for the info on Wolcen, I'd been hesitant to buy it even though it looked like a good ARPG, so I probably won't unless it's severely discounted. Weirdly enough, it's not even on sale during the Steam Summer Sale, and still full price.

 

[Colif]

Youtube thinks I want to play Warhammer, almost every other day its one of the choices in Recommended. But I have no idea why its suggests it as I have no interest. I wish I could edit the suggestions but anyway...

I don't play multiplayer Diablo 2. I always play arpg alone. I prefer to play single player instead. So the charts mean nothing to me, the seasons as well.

I appreciate ideas, I will probably pick up Last Epoch at some stage in next few months. I will look into it more.

 

[Brian Boru]

Youtube … I wish I could edit the suggestions

Mouseover one which doesn't interest and click the 3 dots, then one of the 'not interested' choices.

I did that for a few days years ago, and my Suggestions have been pretty good since.

 

[Colif]

i knew i should have been specific. I mean the row of buttons along top that change based on the other videos you have watched recently. Earlier 40k was there, and I almost took a screenshot to show it. But my choices have changed since then.

refreshes Youtube once

I have no control over those buttons. It just chooses them based on videos I have watched, its obvious some of the channels I watch play it. I don't though.

 

[Brian Boru]

those buttons

Oh those—I never see those cos my YT goes straight to my Subs.

Just checked mine now, and 'Playstation 4' is one LOL—never owned or played any PS 😀
Oh Look, I have WH 40K too, which I also have no interest in—so clearly they're pushing some of their preferences in there.

I got excited when I saw 'Watched' as a button far right. But no, not a chrono list—that would be useful.

ETA: refreshed and now there's no 'More' arrow on right, and list is different.

 

[Colif]

it could be as there is a new game now. It does that with bands as well, randomly show songs from the band just before a new album is out, I am on to that
I know one of my subscriptions is playing it so that could be enough.

 

[Zloth]

What the heck!? It's on my list, too! I think I did watch a trailer for some Warhammer game on Steam, but not YouTube and definitely not regularly.

 

[Zed Clampet]

So I have played Diablo 2 & 3, All the Torchlights, Both good Sacred games.

I haven't played any of those, but since I've learned how to play V Rising, which has the same style combat, I want to give one of these a try. Where should I start (if it has co-op that would be a plus)?

By the way, you could try V Rising out if you wanted. It's got some survival features, but you can go into the advanced options when you are setting up your game and set it for however you like. I think it's just the combat that is the same, mostly, but I haven't actually played any of these other games, so I don't know for sure. See if @Brian Boru will buy it for you just in case so you don't waste your money.

 

[mainer]

I want to give one of these a try. Where should I start (if it has co-op that would be a plus)?

Well, @Colif didn't reply, so I'll give what little info I have. I've played Diablo 2 and both Sacred 1 & 2 but not the other three games. Diablo 2 Resurrected is a great remaster of one of the greatest ARPGs ever made, and probably the easiest to get into. I don't play online or co-op, but I know it has that element. Here is one article that might shed some light on that:
Diablo 2: Resurrected Co-Op - How Multiplayer Works | Screen Rant

My favorite of the group though is Sacred 2. It's such a huge world, an interesting story and varied enemies, and a lot of secret or optional quests that are really great (the Blind Guardian concert is still one of my favorite quests of all time). The game will need a couple of mods to get rid of bugs and allow it to preform properly on modern systems. I can list what I use if you're interested, but won't link them otherwise. As to co-op or online type play, it used to have it, but it's an old game so I don't know if that aspect is still functional. Here's one link that explains it, but it may be an older article:
Co-Optimus - Sacred 2: Fallen Angel (PC) Co-Op Information

You might also want to consider Grim Dawn, which is also a great ARPG with a massive amount of character customization as well as co-op play:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/219990/Grim_Dawn/

 

[Colif]

I haven't played any of those, but since I've learned how to play V Rising, which has the same style combat, I want to give one of these a try. Where should I start (if it has co-op that would be a plus)?

if you want active co op, I would guess D2 resurrected is best one to choose... the other 2 are a little old now. People still play D2 and make videos about the fact. Really, its only place to start. Its grandaddy of the genre after all. It shows its age though, Diablo 3 is sllightly better but I am not sure i like all the changes they made.

Sacred 2 is just a sad story and Torchlight 1 & 2 are great fun, they are a little dated now. And like is case with Sacred 3, the 3rd part of series was a let down. No idea what its coop was like. I didn't play it nearly as much as first 2.

 

[Zed Clampet]

Well, @Colif didn't reply, so I'll give what little info I have. I've played Diablo 2 and both Sacred 1 & 2 but not the other three games. Diablo 2 Resurrected is a great remaster of one of the greatest ARPGs ever made, and probably the easiest to get into. I don't play online or co-op, but I know it has that element. Here is one article that might shed some light on that:
Diablo 2: Resurrected Co-Op - How Multiplayer Works | Screen Rant

My favorite of the group though is Sacred 2. It's such a huge world, an interesting story and varied enemies, and a lot of secret or optional quests that are really great (the Blind Guardian concert is still one of my favorite quests of all time). The game will need a couple of mods to get rid of bugs and allow it to preform properly on modern systems. I can list what I use if you're interested, but won't link them otherwise. As to co-op or online type play, it used to have it, but it's an old game so I don't know if that aspect is still functional. Here's one link that explains it, but it may be an older article:
Co-Optimus - Sacred 2: Fallen Angel (PC) Co-Op Information

You might also want to consider Grim Dawn, which is also a great ARPG with a massive amount of character customization as well as co-op play:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/219990/Grim_Dawn/

Thanks. I got tired of waiting for him and bought Torchlight 2 to give it a try. That top down combat is kind of what I was mostly interested in, but Sacred 2 is pretty appealing to me, so I might grab that one, too. My son is always wanting us to play Skyrim with the co-op mod, but that mod isn't really ready yet. You have all sorts of not-good things happen. Like you walk into a town for the first time and they all start chasing you for no reason, which makes it hard to get and complete quests. I'm a little concerned that the only one I've found so far is Sacred 2 Gold Edition, and it doesn't list anything but singleplayer. I might check GoG to see if they have plain old Sacred 2.

 

[Colif]

tl2.. i played it for 1312 hours so its not a bad game. I have 102 of 119 achievements, most of which just happened along the way. Some of the classes move a little too fast on my PC. Generally played engineer (i think thats class name) and use hammers or cannons (cannons might be a mod)
If you enjoy it I will find a list of mods that make it more...

Sacred 2 gold edition is what you want. it includes the expansion.
It has SP and MP built in, mainly as the differences aren't that big.

 

[mainer]

My son is always wanting us to play Skyrim with the co-op mod, but that mod isn't really ready yet. You have all sorts of not-good things happen. Like you walk into a town for the first time and they all start chasing you for no reason, which makes it hard to get and complete quests.

I don't know if you saw this PCG article last week about the Skyrim Forever Reborn mod, but it seems to have a lot of good information links about installation. It does appear to be buggy yet, and probably not compatible with other mods.
New multiplayer Skyrim mod has been downloaded over 50,000 times | PC Gamer

I'm a little concerned that the only one I've found so far is Sacred 2 Gold Edition, and it doesn't list anything but singleplayer.

I think that co-op is possible with Sacred 2 Gold, though it might take some tweaking. Here is a pinned Steam Discussion post that about getting co-op working. It's all Greek to me because I never do multi-player, but it will probably make sense to you.

[TUTORIAL] How to play CO-OP :: Sacred 2 Gold General Discussions

Needed Software - Radmin VPN - Once again a Brain! Step One Download Radmin VPN Download Step Two Once you download and run it, You have Two ways to play coop. Either: A: Go on Radmin VPN go to Network>Join>Gaming Network> Sacred 2 Fallen Angel or B: Go to Network>Join>Private Network Network...

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And the load screen for Sacred 2 Gold does have a multiplayer button, but I have no idea if it's still functional as I've never clicked it.

And if you end up going for it, the one mod you really need is the community patch found on Dark Matters. There are other mods & tweaks available there as well.
Community Patch - Community Patch - DarkMatters

This is the Steam Guide to get S2G up and running on Windows 10. Some guides aren't that great, but this one I found to be completely accurate.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1254244510

 

[Colif]

Lost ark seems to have turned into an MMO

Might play Grim Dawn again but I already know I need to look into classes and stuff, I am not sure I want to do that today.

Need to watch a intro lesson

 

[Colif]

A few hours later

its not that much different, Although I haven't chosen a 2nd class yet. I might do that after I look into combinations.

Game came back to me as I played, the intro levels haven't changed that much. Already remember a boss in 2nd area... i don't remember boss at end of first area.

 

[Colif]

one month later, I don't remember boss at end of 3rd area... so I been restarting every day to avoid it. Think I am getting tired of it and my mental block I have about fighting things I don't understand.

SO this list makes me wonder, why number 20 isn't part 2.

The Best Action-RPGs To Play If You Love Diablo

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