RTX 5000 Series Review discussion

[AleksGapon]

I thought about upgrading to 5070. But the price and problems are putting me off so far. I'm waiting for the official announcement from AMD and real prices in stores.

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

If the AMD performance is close to what they just released then they should be a good option, could be a very good option depending on the price they actually go for.

 

[ZedClampet]

I'm considering getting a prebuilt with a 5070 ti because the whole damn thing is selling for less than the GPU alone.

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

I'm considering getting a prebuilt with a 5070 ti because the whole damn thing is selling for less than the GPU alone.

Makes sense in that case. I remember with the 3000 series it was the same so people were buying 3080 systems and selling the extra parts because it was way cheaper.

I would think supply would catch up in a few months if the whole tariff thing doesnt blow prices through the roof by then.

 

[Colif]

The defect is enough to make a 5080 perform like a 4080 Super but for more money.
50 series, where you pay more for the same performance as older cards.

bobbing for apples.
Do you get a good apple that works - Card with no defects
Or
Do you get a bad apple that also works but at a lvl equal to a lower quality apple to the one you bought?

Think I would wait before buying as there is no visual way to know (right now) if the cards are right or not. Don't buy until Nvidia and reviewers confirm its fixed... but then always be chance of some old stock. Depends how Nvidia fix it. Can't do it with software.

Nvidia need to speak up. They said it was only 5090 and 5070 TI but Steve has a defective 5080... so they need to look harder.

Lots of people won't know any better and with the scarcity of the cards, many may not want to rma a card that mostly works and wait for a replacement.

Nvidia drivers should have a test in them that shows what you have. Should run on any 50 series card as a test to confirm and highlight field in red if its wrong.

 

[Colif]

I feel you don't need to watch these to know how they feel

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

In my time reviewing the RTX 5070 it's become increasingly clear the AMD ambush has completely pulled the rug from under Nvidia with this release

The more time I spend with the RTX 5070 the more it feels like it really ought to be the RTX 5060.

www.pcgamer.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Founders Edition Review

NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 5070 comes at highly competitive pricing of $550 yet offers performance that rivals the much more expensive RTX 4070 Ti. In our review we found out that overclocking works extremely well on these cards and you'll be able to push it to the next tier with just some quick OC.

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Well, that looks terrible now at the price.

 

[Colif]

Two of those videos have one message... wait until tomorrow (release date of AMD GPU).

Seems 5070 might be a lame duck.

5070 only has 12gb of ram

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Founders Edition Review

NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 5070 comes at highly competitive pricing of $550 yet offers performance that rivals the much more expensive RTX 4070 Ti. In our review we found out that overclocking works extremely well on these cards and you'll be able to push it to the next tier with just some quick OC.

www.techpowerup.com

the RX 9060 XT which comes out next month or so will be cheaper and also comes with 12gb of ram, though it is slower. Guess we need to wait for benchmarks etc

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

Two of those videos have one message... wait until tomorrow (release date of AMD GPU).

Seems 5070 might be a lame duck.

5070 only has 12gb of ram

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Founders Edition Review

NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 5070 comes at highly competitive pricing of $550 yet offers performance that rivals the much more expensive RTX 4070 Ti. In our review we found out that overclocking works extremely well on these cards and you'll be able to push it to the next tier with just some quick OC.

www.techpowerup.com

the RX 9060 XT which comes out next month or so will be cheaper and also comes with 12gb of ram, though it is slower. Guess we need to wait for benchmarks etc

AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT Specs

AMD Navi 48, 2790 MHz, 2048 Cores, 128 TMUs, 48 ROPs, 12288 MB GDDR6, 2438 MHz, 192 bit

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Its got half the shaders of the 9070XT so fair to say as its clocked similarly it will probably be about half of a 9070XT. Thats quite a big gap, puts it only a little faster than an RTX 4060. Going by whats happened here the 5060 wont be much faster than that.

All speculation based off AMDs numbers and the info from TPU there, but if that's the case it better be really cheap.

 

[Colif]

Hardware unboxed benchmarks show the 5070 is essentially a relabelled 4070 Super. You could have bought the same performance 6 months ago, though the 5070 is $50 cheaper (in theory).

 

[ZedClampet]

Two of those videos have one message... wait until tomorrow (release date of AMD GPU).

Seems 5070 might be a lame duck.

5070 only has 12gb of ram

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Founders Edition Review

NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 5070 comes at highly competitive pricing of $550 yet offers performance that rivals the much more expensive RTX 4070 Ti. In our review we found out that overclocking works extremely well on these cards and you'll be able to push it to the next tier with just some quick OC.

www.techpowerup.com

the RX 9060 XT which comes out next month or so will be cheaper and also comes with 12gb of ram, though it is slower. Guess we need to wait for benchmarks etc

Unfortunately, the video of the 9700XT toy shop demo released by AMD leads me to believe no one should be buying any video cards at all right now. That's some seriously embarrassing performance. No one would game with their new AI generation on.

Will be interesting to see what Nvidia does with the 5070 now, but if the best AMD can do is give you double vision, then what does it even matter?

Plus @Colif is reaching AMD superfanboy status at this point

The GPU situation plus US tariffs are seriously concerning for the health of PC gaming.

I just want someone, anyone, to make a decent low to mid GPU this generation. Intel? Nvidia is too engulfed in greed to care.

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

I thought Toy Shop looked fine, but I have terrible eyes for stuff like that. Probably have to check out a Digital Foundry analysis and see what they say about it.

For example I played through the whole of Dead Space Remake with FSR on my old 5700XT and though it was great. Turns out its apparently one of the worst ports of last year and suffers from horrendous shader stutter that makes it unplayable. I didnt notice a thing

 

[ZedClampet]

I thought Toy Shop looked fine, but I have terrible eyes for stuff like that. Probably have to check out a Digital Foundry analysis and see what they say about it.

For example I played through the whole of Dead Space Remake with FSR on my old 5700XT and though it was great. Turns out its apparently one of the worst ports of last year and suffers from horrendous shader stutter that makes it unplayable. I didnt notice a thing

I don't notice it either. I was looking at screenshots, which obviously make it seem worse. I just assumed the screenshots were representative of the video.

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

I don't notice it either. I was looking at screenshots, which obviously make it seem worse. I just assumed the screenshots were representative of the video.

FSR looked bad to me sometimes, talking 1.0 and 2.0, but in other games it looked pretty good and was worth using. I can only imagine if theyre using machine learning now in FSR4 and apparently its back compatible somehow with FSR 3.1 as I understood it, then that would probably be good enough for me for it not to be an issue.

I most likely wont be getting a card this gen, but those AMD reviews will be interesting tomorrow especially in light of this Nvidia one.

 

[ZedClampet]

FSR looked bad to me sometimes, talking 1.0 and 2.0, but in other games it looked pretty good and was worth using. I can only imagine if theyre using machine learning now in FSR4 and apparently its back compatible somehow with FSR 3.1 as I understood it, then that would probably be good enough for me for it not to be an issue.

I most likely wont be getting a card this gen, but those AMD reviews will be interesting tomorrow especially in light of this Nvidia one.

Supposedly this is where all the money is, so I would expect Nvidia to react. Hey, we could have a good old-fashioned price war--except that supply is too low for Nvidia. Wonder how AMD supply is? All they have to do is have some to sell, and they could start eating into that Nvidia market share. Heck, I might even become an AMD fanboy, even though I still have to buy Nvidia.

I have to wait a few months because of supply issues, so I'm going to see if any of these AI programs start supporting AMD cards, and, if so, how well they handle it.