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we have way more really. I have two old PC... that one and one in my room still. I get attached to cases and don't want to let them go.
 
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You would think 2 opposing sides would use different hardware, and yet both use similar AMD CPU & APU

Microsoft want everyone subscribed to Game Pass by a certain year or they might just stop doing the gaming thing... so they want to own Nintendo to get more subs. They don't care about games, just profit.

Sony hasn't stated its future goals

Personally I prefer it if Nintendo won as they always knew it was about games and not about hardware.
 
 
Little bit gutted the Supers will be coming a bit late for me. I hibernate a lot in winter so spend a lot of time gaming, going to be buying a GPU around Black Friday to get maximum use out of it. Couple months later could probably have got a bit more for my money.
 
with the 5700x3d and 5500x3d also existing, the non X3d chips will be even lower in some charts..

Not sure who they for? all the people who think a 5800x3d is still expensive still? I had been waiting for 5800x3d to start to become rare, its one reason I got mine... but now I see they have plenty of spares they can cut down and release as lower versions... the 5600x3d was an experiment to see what market would do.
 

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Okay.

I have no bloody clue how I do it, but I just destroyed my PC. Again. Rebuild it. Again. Works. Again. But for how long? Who knows.

Tried to unplug my GPU from my mobo but it got stuck. Used a little too much force and ripped the GPU lock out. PC no longer wanted to boot. Luckily I had a previous mobo laying arround so I was able to instantly test it. So now I jumpstarted that motherboard and my PC boots. I don't know if my GPU is damaged but I'll find out eventually.
 
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with the 5700x3d and 5500x3d also existing, the non X3d chips will be even lower in some charts..

Not sure who they for? all the people who think a 5800x3d is still expensive still? I had been waiting for 5800x3d to start to become rare, its one reason I got mine... but now I see they have plenty of spares they can cut down and release as lower versions... the 5600x3d was an experiment to see what market would do.
I imagine they had a lot of parts that werent quite stable at the required speeds, so rather than throwing them away they saved them until they had enough to sell with reduced clock speeds as a lower numbered part. Thats normally what happens, unless there a ton of demand for lower end parts, sometimes they start lazering off parts of higher dies to fit demand. The cost is the same to them either way, as long as its based on the same die.

5600X is just a 5800X or even a 5900X with 2 cores or a CCD that failed the cut, same theory.
Okay.

I have no bloody clue how I do it, but I just destroyed my PC. Again. Rebuild it. Again. Works. Again. But for how long? Who knows.

Tried to unplug my GPU from my mobo but it got stuck. Used a little too much force and ripped the GPU lock out. PC no longer wanted to boot. Luckily I had a previous mobo laying arround so I was able to instantly test it. So now I jumpstarted that motherboard and my PC boots. I don't know if my GPU is damaged but I'll find out eventually.
That PCI-E release switch is a bastard, especially with a big air cooler.. Keep a wooden chopstick handy to poke it down these days. Hope theres nothing permanent.
 
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Inspireless Llama

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That PCI-E release switch is a bastard, especially with a big air cooler.. Keep a wooden chopstick handy to poke it down these days. Hope theres nothing permanent.

I think that mobo is dead unfortunately. The RBB worked but the PC wouldn't turn on, it boots with the other mobo. I do have a big aircooler and I didh ave a screwdriver to push it down but to no avail, the GPU got stuck.

I just rebuild it and jumpstarted the mobo to see if it works, so far on that mobo everything works so tomorrow I'll build it into the case again, I think.

Mobo on the right / bottom is the broken one, mobo on the left is the one I use now. And as a very famous Dutch footballplayer once said: Every disadvantage has it's advantage: Now i'll be using a mobo again that does have an extra front USB header (so I can use USB-C) and has enough fan headers for all my fans :)

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I have to admit tho, my 2 biggest air coolers (this white one) and my Scythe Mugen 5 did cool very well. I think they cooled better than my AIO, and they surely were more quiet.

So in those terms, I prefer air coolers, and I don't mind them being so big either. They just need those lashes somewhere else!
 
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Not sure if I am still having issues with my AIO or if yesterday was just a reaction to me unplugging a Corsair Keyboard (they both use same software). Yesterday it was ignoring my fan curves which don't help. Today only sign of trouble is one RGB ram stick is the wrong blue. I am just ignoring it.

If trouble returns I might replace my 240mm AIO with a 280mm AIO. Big change but the larger fans sure make a difference in sound. Already chosen which one I want, should cool PC better and quieter.

Every other PC I owned been air, I just felt like a change.

30c outside, CPU cores on 36c, package 45. I am glad air con is on
 
I assume damage from leaks isn't a thing with liquid cooled?

Is there much maintenance, eg topping off the liquid periodically, or flushing the circuit?

90% or more All in One Water Coolers are closed systems. Only some let you add more liquid but the amount you lose is very small over a few years... longer you use them, more you lose.

I am not in expert so won't try to explain how it gets out. Probably through the tubes that connect pump to radiator.

If my radiator leaked, the only thing under it is .... there is nothing besides the case there. It would depend which way the water went, could just go out from of case, or I would see it as it would be showing underneath the AIO rgb fans. there is a removable steel plate under my radiator - its there to hide the gap that is necessary if you have a 280mm or longer radiator in the front. Under plate is also nothing but if say case were tilted backwards, the water could eventually reach my PSU. But it take a while, and probably exit vents on bottom of case before then.

I am not going to think about if pump leaked as nvme & gpu are under that.

Leaks are possible but not common out of say the pump. It is a concern but not one I think about a lot. Besides not running PC when I am not here... not that I could do much I don't think. Would depend on amount I think.

they constructed in such a way to keep the liquid inside them and not let it out. Its not really water.

A friend with an ancient Alienware has been using same unit for over 13 years now. He is stubborn so I haven't argued about it.
 
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