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Question PC quote £799? Thoughts
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To my surprise the PSU might not be complete trash but actually respectable. I'd check to make sure that actually is one of those PSUs specifically, and not something different Riotoro make to sell on the cheap bundled with case. Whenever I see a PSU bundled with a case, alarm bells go off all over the place... though that could just be the website's formatting.
Otherwise it seems fine.
I take it this follows on from:
forums.pcgamer.com
Where is this quote from? Can you link the store/product page?
Does it include a Windows licence?
Otherwise it seems fine.
I take it this follows on from:
Question - Gaming pc under £800
Looking at getting my son a new gaming pc, views on these two please, and any advice appreciated, fairly novice to all this. https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/acer-nitro-n50-600-intel-core-i5-gtx-1660-ti-gaming-pc-1-tb-hdd-256-gb-ssd-10194262-pdt.html...
forums.pcgamer.com
Where is this quote from? Can you link the store/product page?
Does it include a Windows licence?
Never heard of them, though they could be quite new and what relatively few reviews there are of them on online platforms seem relatively favourable.
If the PSU is one of the Builder series units and therefore reasonably sound, it seems fine.
Whether it's sold via Palicomp themselves or via Amazon marketplace, it's usually possible to contact the seller to ask a question about the product. I'd probably ask them
No Windows licence, so factor in another £100 for that I guess.
If the PSU is one of the Builder series units and therefore reasonably sound, it seems fine.
Whether it's sold via Palicomp themselves or via Amazon marketplace, it's usually possible to contact the seller to ask a question about the product. I'd probably ask them
No Windows licence, so factor in another £100 for that I guess.
So would you be buying it or would he?
If it's him, you're basically making yourself reliant on him for the warranty. And if life intervenes on him at the same time as you have a problem with the PC, you're out of luck and out of pocket.
I had a look at the cases here:
Maybe the CIT Prism since it does actually have a mesh front
And get confirmation on the PSU. if confirmation isn;t available then the Be Quiet Pure Power Gold is £40 more but at least you know what you're getting and that it's good.
If it's him, you're basically making yourself reliant on him for the warranty. And if life intervenes on him at the same time as you have a problem with the PC, you're out of luck and out of pocket.
I had a look at the cases here:
Maybe the CIT Prism since it does actually have a mesh front
And get confirmation on the PSU. if confirmation isn;t available then the Be Quiet Pure Power Gold is £40 more but at least you know what you're getting and that it's good.
The thing is there is a PSU called
www.riotoro.com
Which is apparently fine - not amazing, but fine.
It's also possible they make other PSUs, which aren't fine. The fact they don't specify it's a Builder Edition when saying it's Riotoro is what gives me pause.
BUILDER EDITION 600W | RIOTORO
www.riotoro.com
Which is apparently fine - not amazing, but fine.
It's also possible they make other PSUs, which aren't fine. The fact they don't specify it's a Builder Edition when saying it's Riotoro is what gives me pause.
So, this is the final spec they've come up with, would appreciate your thoughts. Asked for an optical drive to be added
We do this one for £829.99 delivered.
The PSU prices would be to change to a beQuiet PurePower 600W @ £40 or EVGA 80+ @ £30, but the RioToro having Seasonic as their OEM offer the best value of the 3
CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 |
Mobo | ASUS TUF B450-PLUS Gaming |
RAM | 16GB Corsair 3200MHz |
M.2 | Intel 512GB 660p M.2 NVMe |
Optical | 24X Dual-Layer DVD-RW |
Case | KoLink Pitch + 600W RioToro |
Video | nVidia RTX2060 6GB |
OS | None |
HDD | Seagate 3TB HDD |
Cooler | AMD Cooler |
Cooling | 3 x 120mm Black Fans |
Warranty | 3 Year Return To Base Warranty |
We do this one for £829.99 delivered.
The PSU prices would be to change to a beQuiet PurePower 600W @ £40 or EVGA 80+ @ £30, but the RioToro having Seasonic as their OEM offer the best value of the 3
Comparing it to this one really.
www.ebuyer.com
AlphaSync Ryzen 5 8GB RAM 1TB HDD 240GB SSD RX 5600 XT Gaming Desktop PC
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So it's ~£930 including Windows
And they've swapped it to a cheaper case? With literally no airflow at the front?!
Don't get that case.
Can they not give a straight yes or a no as to whether the Riotoro SSD is the builder edition as per
https://www.riotoro.com/builder-edition-600w
?
And they've swapped it to a cheaper case? With literally no airflow at the front?!
Don't get that case.
Can they not give a straight yes or a no as to whether the Riotoro SSD is the builder edition as per
https://www.riotoro.com/builder-edition-600w
?
I asked them to change the case because I wanted an optical drive. Can ask for the one you mentioned, and forgot to mention the Riotoro, is it really that big an issue (asking as someone who knows very little about this stuff). Get the impression you think it overpriced? Don't need windows.
If the Riotoro is not the one that's actually okay, but an even more cheaply built alternative, it could go pop, damage other components, and potentially be a fire risk too. As very cheap PSUs lack basic protections.
The case isn't a good case, and will probably do a terrible job cooling the components. If they did the Fractal Focus G that would be a good option as it has decent cooling and an internal drive bay. Otherwise could you just use a USB DVD drive?
The case isn't a good case, and will probably do a terrible job cooling the components. If they did the Fractal Focus G that would be a good option as it has decent cooling and an internal drive bay. Otherwise could you just use a USB DVD drive?
That spec, with a decent case and PSU, would be nice for the price.
However, you're already seeing price-creep. £930 inc Windows, plus whatever they charge for a better case. And potentially a better PSU - (were they really saying a white-rated EVGA PSU, which is possibly as bargain-bucket as 'okay' goes adds £30 to the order?! They must have a great supply deal with Riotoro).
At which point you get to ~£1000 other companies start being a lot more competitive on price. For instance another UK custom builder:
https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/0UWpXRdjdd/
If Palicomp would kindly confirm what Riotoro model it is - i.e. is it that okay Builder Edition one - that would help.
Only telling the customer a brand and (supposed) wattage is like saying "Buy this motor vehicle - it's by Ford and it has horsepower". Doesn't give much away...
In fairness a lot of companies do that for some components e.g. you get OEM branded SSDs that could be whatever. But an SSD will be hard pressed to fry your system if it goes wrong, unlike the part that is funnelling the electricity everywhere.
It's very possible they are using a Builder Edition, they just really ought to confirm it if so, or tell you the exact model so you can look it up 🙂
However, you're already seeing price-creep. £930 inc Windows, plus whatever they charge for a better case. And potentially a better PSU - (were they really saying a white-rated EVGA PSU, which is possibly as bargain-bucket as 'okay' goes adds £30 to the order?! They must have a great supply deal with Riotoro).
At which point you get to ~£1000 other companies start being a lot more competitive on price. For instance another UK custom builder:
https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/0UWpXRdjdd/
If Palicomp would kindly confirm what Riotoro model it is - i.e. is it that okay Builder Edition one - that would help.
Only telling the customer a brand and (supposed) wattage is like saying "Buy this motor vehicle - it's by Ford and it has horsepower". Doesn't give much away...
In fairness a lot of companies do that for some components e.g. you get OEM branded SSDs that could be whatever. But an SSD will be hard pressed to fry your system if it goes wrong, unlike the part that is funnelling the electricity everywhere.
It's very possible they are using a Builder Edition, they just really ought to confirm it if so, or tell you the exact model so you can look it up 🙂
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