AMDs New GPUs Discussion 022425

[ZedClampet]

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/amds-official-performance-figures-for-rdna-4-leak-out-early-with-the-rx-9070-xt-claimed-to-be-42-percent-faster-than-the-rx-7900-gre-at-4k/

Not sure if this counts as early news or not. Leak could be faked. But if it's true, the new 9070 XT will be roughly the same advance, maybe a little more, than NVIDIA's 5070 ti. They apparently didn't compare it to the 7900 XT for some reason, but it's a 42 percent increase over the 7900, although about half of that is from getting significantly better at no way tracing.

I'm not being scientific with it, but looking at the numbers for the 7900 XT, it appears that it will come in right around the 5070 ti. Of course the price will have to come down from what they charged for the 7900 XT, but assuming that happens it looks like it will be, as usual, sort of be a wash and just come down to buyer's preference.

 

[Why_Me]

Saw that yesterday. I'll wait for the reviews.

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

Slide seems legit but have to see on the 28th. Have to remember its the numbers from AMD so they will be cherry picked somehow even if the slide is real.

Theyre comparing it to the 7900GRE which is actually a hobbled RX 7900XT. One optimistic theory is that this is because it will be priced the same as that card at $550

 

[ZedClampet]

Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater system requirements are here, and it's yet another game that requires an RTX graphics card and tonnes of free storage to play

Pour one out for those still on a GTX card.

www.pcgamer.com

This is one of a handful of games recently to suggest the same, with Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, and Doom: The Dark Ages all requiring the same GPU.

What's up with this? Do these games really not run on AMD GPUs? Supposedly the new GPU will be good with ray tracing. Will that change this? I had no idea this was a thing.

Feels like Nvidia not playing nice.

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater system requirements are here, and it's yet another game that requires an RTX graphics card and tonnes of free storage to play

Pour one out for those still on a GTX card.

www.pcgamer.com

What's up with this? Do these games really not run on AMD GPUs? Supposedly the new GPU will be good with ray tracing. Will that change this? I had no idea this was a thing.

Feels like Nvidia not playing nice.

Not sure, maybe its just and Nvidia sponsored game? The article mentions:

That being said, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain also doesn't mention an AMD GPU in its system requirements and works fine with one so we'll have to wait until launch to see how non-Nvidia cards handle the game.

Im pretty sure any Radeon from the 6700XT/7600XT and up is faster than a 2060 in RT as well as normal rendering, at least from what Ive seen. Cant think of a reason it wouldnt be fine.

AMD have also started naming their cards based on the Nvidia tier that they hope to compete against with the 9070(XT), maybe companies are just realizing that people only really speak Nvidia.

 

[ZedClampet]

Not sure, maybe its just and Nvidia sponsored game? The article mentions:



Im pretty sure any Radeon from the 6700XT/7600XT and up is faster than a 2060 in RT as well as normal rendering, at least from what Ive seen. Cant think of a reason it wouldnt be fine.

AMD have also started naming their cards based on the Nvidia tier that they hope to compete against with the 9070(XT), maybe companies are just realizing that people only really speak Nvidia.

The problem, supposedly, is that ray tracing is baked into the games. You can't turn it off. And ray tracing wasn't around when Phantom Pain launched. But the 9070 is supposedly good at ray tracing, so maybe this doesn't apply to it.

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

The problem, supposedly, is that ray tracing is baked into the games. You can't turn it off. And ray tracing wasn't around when Phantom Pain launched. But the 9070 is supposedly good at ray tracing, so maybe this doesn't apply to it.

I dont think RT will be the problem, like I said all 6000 series AMD cards and up are RT capable. One problem might be if they only have DLSS and no built in option for FSR I guess.

 

[ZedClampet]

I dont think RT will be the problem, like I said all 6000 series AMD cards and up are RT capable. One problem might be if they only have DLSS and no built in option for FSR I guess.

"An RTX 2000-series card or later is required for hardware-based ray tracing with Lumen, Unreal Engine 5's dynamic illumination and reflection system."

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

"An RTX 2000-series card or later is required for hardware-based ray tracing with Lumen, Unreal Engine 5's dynamic illumination and reflection system."

From where I'm standing it would be weird if AMD cards, most of which have much better RT and PT performance than an RTX 2060 wouldnt work. Fortnite seems to be fine on AMD with hardware Lumen from what I can find. Dont know.

Edit: Indiana Jones and Final Fantasy 7 also seem to work fine on AMD according to benchmarks.

 

[ZedClampet]

From where I'm standing it would be weird if AMD cards, most of which have much better RT and PT performance than an RTX 2060 wouldnt work. Fortnite seems to be fine on AMD with hardware Lumen from what I can find. Dont know.

Edit: Indiana Jones and Final Fantasy 7 also seem to work fine on AMD according to benchmarks.

So the article was basically incorrect, then. That's why I posted this yesterday because it was the first time I'd heard of this, and it seemed like it would have been a bigger deal if AMD was completely locked out of all these big games.

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

So the article was basically incorrect, then. That's why I posted this yesterday because it was the first time I'd heard of this, and it seemed like it would have been a bigger deal if AMD was completely locked out of all these big games.

Seems so to me as someone with only a low understanding of the technicalities of all this and the internet at my disposal. Intel cards should be fine as well, provided they manage to get their driver act together.