Question CPU LED Stays On After Windows Installer BSOD — Ryzen 5 5600 on MSI B550-A PRO

[Colif]

I assume you returning the PSU & ram you have now, for a refund?
I would return CPU as well and just get a new one now, you should be able to swap it with store. Saves going through refund process for all of it.
Buying one after returning is just wasting time. To me anyway.

unless like me you bought from multiple shops. Then its up to you.

its 3am here, I might stop answering soon. Only as I will be asleep. I will look when I wake up.

I wasn't sure how long AMD warranty was.. thats nice to know

Don't be tough on yourself, you did pretty well for someone making 1st PC.

 

[33P4BLO]

I assume you returning the PSU & ram you have now, for a refund?
I would return CPU as well and just get a new one now, you should be able to swap it with store. Saves going through refund process for all of it.
Buying one after returning is just wasting time. To me anyway.

unless like me you bought from multiple shops. Then its up to you.

its 3am here, I might stop answering soon. Only as I will be asleep. I will look when I wake up.

I wasn't sure how long AMD warranty was.. thats nice to know

The PSU and RAM were from one store, and the CPU from another. For a full refund, of course. I'm still waiting to get a refund for my previous B550 from Gigabyte and for the ssd (I upgraded from a Lexar NM620 to an NM790). Thanks a lot for your help man, good night (BTW it's only 7 PM where I live.)

 

[Colif]

Final thought: Make sure the ram you buy are in a set. Buy 2 x 8gb together instead of two lots of 1x8. Main reason being sticks in sets are tested to work together, sticks sold alone have no guarantees. More likely to cause errors if you mix non matched sticks together

 

[33P4BLO]

Final thought: Make sure the ram you buy are in a set. Buy 2 x 8gb together instead of two lots of 1x8. Main reason being sticks in sets are tested to work together, sticks sold alone have no guarantees. More likely to cause errors if you mix non matched sticks together

I decided to temporarily hold off on building a computer so as not to buy any bad components again. As you suggested, I'm buying a Corsair Vengeance Lpx 16GB 3200MHz CL16 (2x8GB). In the future, I'll add a second set of these to have 32GB of RAM. I'll also find a decent power supply that won't cause any problems in the future. I've learned a lesson about being cautious when choosing components. Thanks again for your help! P.S. I also sent the CPU back today as a precaution, I want to eliminate any potential problem.

 

[Lutfij]

I'm buying a Corsair Vengeance Lpx 16GB 3200MHz CL16 (2x8GB). In the future, I'll add a second set of these to have 32GB of RAM.
Corsair are the only ram brand out there that have a PCB version on their ram kits, since they source ram IC's from multiple vendors. Even if the ram kits look aesthetically and physically the same, internally they might not. With this in mind, I'd advise against picking up another ram kit of the same make and mode from Corsair if the purchase window is after a long time since your first ram kit will be purchased. Mixing and matching sticks of ram can lead to instability, BSoD's, grey hair or no hair from troubleshooting.

That being said, DDR4 ram's production has dwindled to a near zero, in favor of DDR5 and beyond. You'll eventually notice you're paying the same for DDR5 ram(due to supply/demand curve) albeit DDR5 is faster than DDR4 ram. With that advice, go with 32GB's of ram out of the box if you need it otherwise you should b e fine with 16GB's of ram. Sweet spot for B550 chipset is a dual channel, tight latencied, DDR4-3600MHz ram kit.

I've learned a lesson about being cautious when choosing components
Ask first, then go buy is the smart path on how you should proceed with a PC build as opposed to buying on your own and the rectifying mistakes as you go along. The latter is resource draining while the former ensures you've spent once for the right parts.

That being said, you never did mention where you're located. If we know the sites, brands and parts you have access to, it'd help us narrow down parts for you.

 

[33P4BLO]

I'm buying a Corsair Vengeance Lpx 16GB 3200MHz CL16 (2x8GB). In the future, I'll add a second set of these to have 32GB of RAM.
Corsair are the only ram brand out there that have a PCB version on their ram kits, since they source ram IC's from multiple vendors. Even if the ram kits look aesthetically and physically the same, internally the might not. With this in mind, I'd advise against picking up another ram kit of the same make and mode from Corsair if the purchase window is after a long time since your first ram kit will be purchased.

I've learned a lesson about being cautious when choosing components
Ask first, then go buy is the smart path on how you should proceed with a PC build.

That being said, you never did mention where you're located. If we know the sites, brands and parts you have access to, it'd help us narrow down parts for you.

I live in Poland. We have several local brands here, such as Endorfy (SilentiumPC, SPC Gear) and Krux (My case is from this brand). My choice of components for someone from another country may sometimes seem unclear, but there are significant price differences that I have often considered.

 

[Lutfij]

I edited my post, while you sent that message. Please re-read it.

We have several local brands here, such as Endorfy (SilentiumPC, SPC Gear) and Krux (My case is from this brand)
Next time, please pass on links to the sites you can purchase off of so we understand how much you're paying for the parts. No point suggesting a part that cost us a dollar while it costs you an arm and a leg(more than a dollar)...now is it?

My choice of components for someone from another country may sometimes seem unclear, but there are significant price differences that I have often considered.
This is why we ask for links. You're only wasting time with us suggesting something you don't have access to. This site is located in the UK but the majority of it's user base are located in the USA and UK with a few in Australia and Germany.

 

[33P4BLO]

I edited my post, while you sent that message. Please re-read it.

I know DDR4 is becoming a thing of the past, but unfortunately, I don't have the budget to buy 32GB of RAM right now. Maybe I'll save up some money and buy four 8GB sticks at once. I thought that the RAM brand didn't matter much (I heard that only speed and latency matter), but what you wrote about Corsair made me buy their RAM, the one you wrote about. I will choose the 3600mhz cl16 version. BTW, I'm aware that the sentences I write sometimes don't make sense. I'm not a native English speaker, but I do my best 😅

 

[Lutfij]

Maybe I'll save up some money and buy four 8GB sticks at once.
You're going against the advice Colif had told you about buying individual sticks of ram.

BTW, I'm aware that the sentences I write sometimes don't make sense. I'm not a native English speaker, but I do my best 😅
You seem to communicate fine to me.

 

[33P4BLO]

Maybe I'll save up some money and buy four 8GB sticks at once.
You're going against the advice Colif had told you about buying individual sticks of ram.

Then I don't quite understand. Is it better to buy two 16GB sticks in one kit, even if my motherboard has four RAM slots?
Edit: Now I have read what Colif wrote. Does it really make that much of a difference? If yes, then I will do as you say, and buy one 32GB kit.

 

[Colif]

realises he can't read and removes one part.

Edit: Now I have read what Colif wrote. Does it really make that much of a difference? If yes, then I will do as you say, and buy one 32GB kit.

Really better to buy 1 set of 32gb if you intend to have that much

BTW, I'm aware that the sentences I write sometimes don't make sense. I'm not a native English speaker, but I do my best 😅
You seem to communicate fine to me.

intentionally misunderstands quote ; You do okay Lutfi

 

[33P4BLO]

that isn't how it works. You know better than that.... bad Lutfi. While the chances of two sets being bought at exactly the same time in same shop does make it higher that all 4 might be the same, you run into more problems with mismatched sticks the more you put together... 4 is lottery. (though I have seen it work with 8, its an expensive gamble)


Really better to buy 1 set of 32gb if you intend to have that much

I plan to use my PC for casual gaming and entertainment. Currently, 16GB of RAM is sufficient; that may change soon. But for my needs, will 4 sticks instead of 2 really make a difference? Oh and I checked the current prices, 3600 MHz is much more expensive than 3200 MHz (in my country). Is it worth paying extra for the higher frequency?

 

[Colif]

You probably don't need 32gb for those activities.
How much you need really depends on game demands really. Most don't need that much now.

I originally wanted 64gb in this PC but I couldn't get it at speed I wanted so got 32gb and then after adjusting what loads with windows I have worked out I only use 40% of it normally, I haven't bothered buying more.

Probably not notice great difference between ram speeds. I only ever had 3200 in my last PC
This was my last PC: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Rw4pFZ

 

[33P4BLO]

You probably don't need 32gb for those activities.
How much you need really depends on game demands really. Most don't need that much now.

I don't need that much now, but this computer will last me for years. Until now, I was using a Dell laptop with an i3-6006U and HD Graphics 520. (But I upgraded the drive to an SSD and replaced the 4GB of RAM with 16GB). That's why I want it to be "futureproof" for my needs (I know that in reality such a thing doesn't exist).

Probably not notice great difference between ram speeds. I only ever had 3200 in my last PC

That's why I think there's no point in adding more to 3600mhz.

 

[Lutfij]

realises he can't read and removes one part.

Really better to buy 1 set of 32gb if you intend to have that much

intentionally misunderstands quote ; You do okay Lutfi

If you go and re-read what I wrote, I was stating; if OP has a Corsair ram kit today and goes and buys another ram kit of the same make and model but a few weeks or months apart, the chances of them having different PCB revisions are high = can be the cause for BSoD's.

How to decode your CORSAIR memory

Understood how to read the part number and the version of your CORSAIR memory kit to help you choose the best kit for your setup.

www.corsair.com

If you're advising not to mismatch sticks of ram, doesn't mismatching ram IC's also qualify under that advice?

I don't need that much now, but this computer will last me for years. Until now, I was using a Dell laptop with an i3-6006U and HD Graphics 520. (But I upgraded the drive to an SSD and replaced the 4GB of RAM with 16GB). That's why I want it to be "futureproof" for my needs (I know that in reality such a thing doesn't exist).

That's why I think there's no point in adding more to 3600mhz.

The term futureproof is a myth/illusion...you will need to change sooner or later. If your system can't do what you need it to do, you either upgrade or rebuild another system.

Two sticks will always be faster than 4, it puts less stress on the integrated memory controller. Populating all ram slots with sticks does look cool but it puts stress on the memory controller.

 

[33P4BLO]

The term futureproof is a myth/illusion...you will need to change sooner or later. If your system can't do what you need it to do, you either upgrade or rebuild another system.

That's why I put it in quotation marks. I want to choose a setup that I could sleep soundly with, without worrying about lack of RAM.

Two sticks will always be faster than 4, it puts less stress on the integrated memory controller.

In this case, 2x16 GB 3200mhz will work best for me.

 

[Colif]

If you go and re-read what I wrote, I was stating; if OP has a Corsair ram kit today and goes and buys another ram kit of the same make and model but a few weeks or months apart, the chances of them having different PCB revisions are high = can be the cause for BSoD's.

I did that and its why I removed it. Not my fault people around here too fast to read my replies.

DDR5 doesn't work well with more than two sticks yet - its why most sets only include two still. Adding more sticks DDR5 actually slows it down

My board:
2 DIMM: One pair of memory modules installed into the paired of slots will enable Dual-Channel memory configuration. Please install the memory modules into slot of DDR5_A2, DDR5_B2 for best compatibility and performance.
* Speed dropping policy according to AMD processor specification (EXPO/XMP disabled):
- Drops down to DDR5-5600 when 2 DIMMs of the same channel are installed e.g., DDR5_A1 / _A2.
Drops down to DDR5-3600 when 4 DIMMs are installed.

So its 5600 with 3 sticks and 3600 with 4.

Its why I only have two.

16gb is enough for now.

 

[Colif]

Two sticks will always be faster than 4, it puts less stress on the integrated memory controller. Populating all ram slots with sticks does look cool but it puts stress on the memory controller.

if he chose the RGB ram from Corsair I originally picked out, and matched it with

VENGEANCE RGB PRO Light Enhancement Kit — Black

CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO Series DDR4 Light Enhancement Kit completes your custom PC’s look by filling your empty DDR4 slots, boasting 10 ultra-bright individually addressable RGB LEDs each. **PLEASE NOTE - These Modules Contain No DRAM Memory and are Mea

www.corsair.com

He would have the full look of 4 sticks while only really having 2.

it worked for me... but then he doesn't care about rgb

 

[Lutfij]

if he chose the RGB ram from Corsair I originally picked out, and matched it with

VENGEANCE RGB PRO Light Enhancement Kit — Black

CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO Series DDR4 Light Enhancement Kit completes your custom PC’s look by filling your empty DDR4 slots, boasting 10 ultra-bright individually addressable RGB LEDs each. **PLEASE NOTE - These Modules Contain No DRAM Memory and are Mea

www.corsair.com

He would have the full look of 4 sticks while only really having 2.

it worked for me... but then he doesn't care about rgb

Yeah, that's a possible solution. Gigabyte started that trend actually. If you bought a 2x ram kit, they'd include 2x dummy sticks but with functional RGB stirps in them to give off a faux vibe of all 4 slots being populated with ram. Dubbed it as a demo ram kit;

https://www.gigabyte.com/Memory/AORUS-RGB-Memory-16GB--2x8GB-3600MHz--With-Demo-Kit

 

[Colif]

surprising there aren't any non rgb versions as you would think more than just RGB users would appreciate it.
Wish I could get them for my new ram. I did look. Corsair don't even have DDR5 versions yet.

G Skill currently have no plans to make them so I just have to ignore it.

edit: misspelled there as their. blames techy

 

[Lutfij]

surprising there aren't any non rgb versions
Just disable RGB in BIOS or app or set them all to 0(zero)'s in RGB fields.

 

[Colif]

I expect people with non rgb ram would like the sticks to match. If their entire purpose is to look identical, it seems a waste of money to buy rgb ram and then set it as off in software.
From a short search, only Gigabyte & Corsair make these still. If you had other ram, the sticks wouldn't be the same.

Just disable RGB in BIOS or app or set them all to 0(zero)'s in RGB fields.

I actually had a colour scheme where 2 of the sticks were off, just for a bit of contrast. I don't have any screenshots of that though. It doesn't really work as there is bleed from the rgb on both sides.
4 sticks is a better canvas to draw one

 

[33P4BLO]

Guys, I just wanted to let you know that after replacing some parts, my computer came back from the dead. I decided on 2x8gb g.skill aegis (3200mhz, cl16), as a power supply Endorfy vero l5 600w, and a new r5 5600 from another store. Purely theoretically, should my build handle 4 RAM sticks? Apparently, Ryzen 5000 series cpus handle this well. (+5600 officially supports 3200mhz)

 

[Colif]

Endorfy vero l5 600w

wonders where this is on @Lutfij charts

G SKill tested this set with your motherboard:

F4-3200C16Q-32GIS - Overview - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

Named after the powerful shield of Greek gods, Aegis symbolizes strength and power. The AEGIS DDR4 memory series is designed for PC gaming system upgrades, enabling memory upgrades that your gaming rig deserves. Whether it's FPS, RTS, MOBA, or MMORPG, let AEGIS DDR4 Gaming Memory be the strength...

www.gskill.com

Its not a simple matter of the CPU running with it, Motherboard needs to cooperate

I tried to warn you, buying another two sticks later to match with the two you already have can end in BSOD and other problems you didn't have before.

If you want 32gb buy it as 1 set. They will work together. The link above is a set of 4x8gb

 

[Lutfij]

I've included links to the PSU tier lists in the prior page, the Vero L5 doesn't show up in both and I have my reservations about the unit purchased. From my understanding, that unit isn't good but is a step above the one prior. Let's see how long this holds up before it knocks out other parts.

I see the OP has an unhealthy fixation with 4 sticks of ram. No matter how many times user is advised against it, OP has to wind back up to 4 sticks.