Baldur's Gate 3 Playthrough Discussion

[Zed Clampet]

What is the point in making you become visible when attacking when the enemies can just go invisible again right after (and move some more)?

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Things are coming to an end. The Raphael fight was fun.

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Lae'zel is an absolute murder monster. I tried Karlach again at level 12 and there is no comparison. She had great gear and 22 strength, too. I'm going to switch her in my solo game to a fighter because I absolutely love her character.

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@Pifanjr I wouldn't carry your lack of enthusiasm for magic gear into Act 3. There's some great stuff to find and sometimes buy. Makes a huge difference in your stats.

 

[Zloth]

Yeah, I came into Baldur's Gate loaded with cash. Two stores and it was almost all gone. I even pulled out all those plate armors I had sent off to camp storage and sold them off.

 

[Pifanjr]

What is the point in making you become visible when attacking when the enemies can just go invisible again right after (and move some more)?

You could do that too. I recently did that with Wyll's imp familiar: I snuck up on an enemy while invisible, attacked it causing it to be surprised, attacked it again in the surprise round and then became invisible before they could act and flew away.

Sadly the enemy could heal itself when out of combat, so I couldn't kill her like that, but she started with a decent chunk of temporary hit points that I removed that way.

@Pifanjr I wouldn't carry your lack of enthusiasm for magic gear into Act 3. There's some great stuff to find and sometimes buy. Makes a huge difference in your stats.

I do now have a ring on Karlach that gives her extra acid damage on every attack and a cloak that possibly inflicts an enemy with a damaging acid aura if you do acid damage, which is a pretty fun combination.

Yeah, I came into Baldur's Gate loaded with cash. Two stores and it was almost all gone. I even pulled out all those plate armors I had sent off to camp storage and sold them off.

Oh no, I had just stopped picking up every single piece of gear of every single dead enemy (and ally), but now I feel like I might need to start again...

Though I don't think there are that many enemies left before I reach Act 3, I'm pretty sure I'm almost at the end of Act 2.

 

[Frindis]

What is the point in making you become visible when attacking when the enemies can just go invisible again right after (and move some more)?

You could do that too. I recently did that with Wyll's imp familiar: I snuck up on an enemy while invisible, attacked it causing it to be surprised, attacked it again in the surprise round and then became invisible before they could act and flew away.

There is even a cape that makes you go complete invisible for two turns after you kill an enemy.

Things are coming to an end. The Raphael fight was fun.

Beautiful music in it

Lae'zel is an absolute murder monster. I tried Karlach again at level 12 and there is no comparison. She had great gear and 22 strength, too. I'm going to switch her in my solo game to a fighter because I absolutely love her character.

Barb is stronger early on (throughout Act 1), but fighter wins it later with more attacks and more feats. There is a new subclass for barb I believe, so it could be that it changes things, but I hardly think so.

@Pifanjr I wouldn't carry your lack of enthusiasm for magic gear into Act 3. There's some great stuff to find and sometimes buy. Makes a huge difference in your stats.

I do now have a ring on Karlach that gives her extra acid damage on every attack and a cloak that possibly inflicts an enemy with a damaging acid aura if you do acid damage, which is a pretty fun combination.

I think that is probably the coolest thing with BG3 item wise. You can just go to a vendor in act 3 that sets you up for life, as more of the better gear is obvious in Act 3 or you can tinker more with builds and get some synergies to really pop off. Besides that, some of the early items can also be extremely powerful by themselves, like if you get the bow that gives you haste or the one that frightens people. Just being at the right location earlier in the game can really give you an advantage.

Oh no, I had just stopped picking up every single piece of gear of every single dead enemy (and ally), but now I feel like I might need to start again...

When you arrive at the main capital and feel really broke, you can always get an instrument and start playing for the NPC's. I'm not saying it will not take an extremely long time to get rich from it, but I am saying it is honest work, a good hard living and you'll probably lighten someones mood. Just...be wary of anyone wearing a red t-shirt. Oh...and probably don't play at the graveyard..or stand to close to one of the boat jetties and whatever you do, do not start playing any music down in the darkest of dark because there you'll find the [censored].

 

[Zed Clampet]

Welp, tomorrow will finish it. We're only at 80 hours. I've actually got 121 hours but that includes all my solo goofing around. Guido's system says 80.

I'm not too sad about it. I'll play this a few more times. Guido may even want to do another run some day.

I will have to put some distance between BG3 and myself before I'm able to go back and play something like Solasta. Not that Solasta is a bad game, but it's kind of a Marvel movie story and has lots of tiresome banter. BG3 is up there with The Witcher 3 as the best written game I've ever played. Expedition 33 was very well written, as well. I just don't think I can do a "Marvel" story immediately after.

 

[Zloth]

Solasta's banter is somewhat randomized, based on the personality you pick. It's the price of being able to define every character in your party. If you don't like it, I'm pretty sure it can be made more rare - that's a pretty standard feature in isometric RPGs these days.

Oh no, I had just stopped picking up every single piece of gear of every single dead enemy (and ally), but now I feel like I might need to start again...

Yep. And your second attempt has to be in Honor Mode. Man, that's going to be rough.

Nah, just go back and pick up what you didn't bother with. The plate armor is nice because it's actually worth something. You could even sell it in Act 2, I don't think the game has different vendors paying different prices. Most stuff, of course, isn't worth bothering. (Why do we have all these gems that are worth, like 4gp?? I thought they might be ingredients to something, but I sure didn't find anything.)

 

[Zed Clampet]

Solasta's banter is somewhat randomized, based on the personality you pick. It's the price of being able to define every character in your party. If you don't like it, I'm pretty sure it can be made more rare - that's a pretty standard feature in isometric RPGs these days.


Yep. And your second attempt has to be in Honor Mode. Man, that's going to be rough.

Nah, just go back and pick up what you didn't bother with. The plate armor is nice because it's actually worth something. You could even sell it in Act 2, I don't think the game has different vendors paying different prices. Most stuff, of course, isn't worth bothering. (Why do we have all these gems that are worth, like 4gp?? I thought they might be ingredients to something, but I sure didn't find anything.)

I wondered about the gems and all the unenchanted jewelry

 

[Pifanjr]

Yep. And your second attempt has to be in Honor Mode. Man, that's going to be rough.

I'm considering doing a Honor mode run afterwards, but considering how long it's taking me to do this first run I'll probably want to play something else once I'm done. My backlog keeps growing.

Nah, just go back and pick up what you didn't bother with. The plate armor is nice because it's actually worth something. You could even sell it in Act 2, I don't think the game has different vendors paying different prices.

I'm pretty sure I cannot go back. I jumped down a hole and I think I'm stuck here until I find the exit. I did pick up a lot of the plate armours though, since they were quite pricey.

Most stuff, of course, isn't worth bothering. (Why do we have all these gems that are worth, like 4gp?? I thought they might be ingredients to something, but I sure didn't find anything.)

I wondered about the gems and all the unenchanted jewelry

I've sold off the unenchanted jewelry since I figured those didn't have a use, but I've hung onto the gems in case I needed them. I forgot that the D&D loot table includes gems and artwork that are just alternatives for coins, so I guess I could've guessed they were just for selling.

 

[Zed Clampet]

I've sold off the unenchanted jewelry since I figured those didn't have a use, but I've hung onto the gems in case I needed them.

I held on to both for a little while until I searched and found out there was no use for them. I was hoping we could create enchanted rings and amulets since those seem to be a bit rare, at least early on. We have all the party members, and most of them are poorly equipped. If we decide to switch someone out, I have to move lots of inventory around, but this is partly because I sold things I was unimpressed with.

 

[Zed Clampet]

The best classes for my playstyle (no sneaking):

Fighter
Druid
Monk
Cleric
Sorcerer
Wizard

Everything else can kick rocks.

 

[Pifanjr]

The best classes for my playstyle (no sneaking):

Fighter
Druid
Monk
Cleric
Sorcerer
Wizard

Everything else can kick rocks.

What's wrong with Warlocks? I love Eldritch Blast with the Repelling Blast invocation to knock enemies off cliffs or rooftops.

Also, have you tried a Paladin? I haven't yet, but from what I've read they can do insane amounts of damage.

 

[Frindis]

@Zed Clampet No bard, me sad.

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/lRNpZ9mYdwc?si=-OT0xTzDqWLNOYJD

Also, have you tried a Paladin? I haven't yet, but from what I've read they can do insane amounts of damage.

I have a soft spot for Minthara. Well, besides that one time I snapped her neck *cough*.

 

[Zed Clampet]

What's wrong with Warlocks? I love Eldritch Blast with the Repelling Blast invocation to knock enemies off cliffs or rooftops.

Also, have you tried a Paladin? I haven't yet, but from what I've read they can do insane amounts of damage.

@Zed Clampet No bard, me sad.

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/lRNpZ9mYdwc?si=-OT0xTzDqWLNOYJD


I have a soft spot for Minthara. Well, besides that one time I snapped her neck *cough*.

To me a warlock is a bad mage combined with a bad fighter. If I want one of those, I can make a better one by multiclassing monk and sorcerer. Honestly, I didn't give Wyl that much of a chance, though, so I may have missed some positives about the class.

As for Paladin, I haven't tried one because I killed Minthara. They are very good in Solasta, but I don't like that you can so easily break your oath in BG3 and be forced into an evil subclass. I prefer playing more pragmatically and doing things like deceiving evil characters (breaks Oath of Devotion) or making characters keep the peace (breaks the Oath of Vengeance) or to attack sometimes even if there are more peaceful options (breaks the Oath of the Ancients). So, basically, it just doesn't work with my personality.

 

[Frindis]

I didn't give Wyl that much of a chance, though, so I may have missed some positives about the class.

I never liked Wyl. I think warlocks are ok, but Wyl just bugged me somehow. He is most likely a decent fellow but he just comes out as a beat of a weakling compared to the other characters. Probably also why I never picked Halsin, but in all honesty, I could be completely wrong about them. The only thing I know about Halsin is that he got captured and I have to either beat his arse, help him or just completely ignore him.

As for Paladin, I haven't tried one because I killed Minthara. They are very good in Solasta, but I don't like that you can so easily break your oath in BG3 and be forced into an evil subclass. I prefer playing more pragmatically and doing things like deceiving evil characters (breaks Oath of Devotion) or making characters keep the peace (breaks the Oath of Vengeance) or to attack sometimes even if there are more peaceful options (breaks the Oath of the Ancients). So, basically, it just doesn't work with my personality.

I just played her as my girlfriend/fighter and she seemed to be fine mostly. She did argue about something once and wanted to walk, but I rolled the dice and she went with it. I also broke her neck once, but that was just an accident because my hands slipped around her neck and then she woke up and quickly turned her head around.

 

[Zed Clampet]

I also broke her neck once, but that was just an accident because my hands slipped around her neck and then she woke up and quickly turned her head around.

Dark Urge playthrough?

 

[Zed Clampet]

UGH! I downloaded a mod to skip the opening mindflayer ship sequence and finally started my new modded SP game. Unfortunately, that means you don't rescue Shadowheart, so she wasn't lying on the beach. I looked it up, and you find her shortly afterward, and she joins your party, but she hates you.

Guess I'm deactivating that mod and starting over and doing the ship...

I swear, it seems like making it so that you saved Shadowheart would have been as simple as changing one field in a database with a pak editor. I mean, I haven't modded BG3, so I don't know for sure, but the fact that you rescued her stays with her for the rest of the game, so it should be a database thing, which just makes this lazy.

 

[Frindis]

Dark Urge playthrough?

I can neither confirm nor deny that

 

[Frindis]

Guess I'm deactivating that mod and starting over and doing the ship...

Have you tried getting the sword from the big guy attacking you on the ship? Pretty cool weapon for a fighter

 

[Zed Clampet]

Have you tried getting the sword from the big guy attacking you on the ship? Pretty cool weapon for a fighter

Nope. I always just run past him to the little enemies and ship controls. He's got so much health, I'm guessing I would need to attack him with all 3 characters?

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Also, just because you are so disappointed, I'm thinking about playing my solo game with 4 bards (I've got the mod that lets you make extra characters). I'll put 2 in College of Lore and one in each of the fighting subclasses. We're going to be wonderfully flamboyant and pretentious, like Astarion.

Unfortunately, the wiki seems to be incomplete with bards. As the only bard player, you need to go update it.

 

[Frindis]

Nope. I always just run past him to the little enemies and ship controls. He's got so much health, I'm guessing I would need to attack him with all 3 characters?

You only need one and no brute force needed. In case you want one of the options:
You can use a cleric and use the 1st level spell "command" making him drop the weapon. Then you just run to the exit and point your middle finger to the weaponless bastard

Also, just because you are so disappointed, I'm thinking about playing my solo game with 4 bards (I've got the mod that lets you make extra characters). I'll put 2 in College of Lore and one in each of the fighting subclasses. We're going to be wonderfully flamboyant and pretentious, like Astarion.

OMG, that party is going to be a thing of beauty! Think about how lovely those campfires are going to be

 

[Zed Clampet]

You only need one and no brute force needed. In case you want one of the options:
You can use a cleric and use the 1st level spell "command" making him drop the weapon. Then you just run to the exit and point your middle finger to the weaponless bastard


OMG, that party is going to be a thing of beauty! Think about how lovely those campfires are going to be

Women like a good bard:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgsUy78Vxk8&ab_channel=DerekBrooks


I think the woman who screams "FILTHY!" would make a good date. She obviously gets it

 

[Frindis]

When I do karaokes after 12 pints, I sound just like that🎤

 

[Zed Clampet]

When I do karaokes after 12 pints, I sound just like that🎤

Does it matter if you don't really sound like that so long as you think you do?

 

[Pifanjr]

I have a soft spot for Minthara. Well, besides that one time I snapped her neck *cough*.

I didn't realise Minthara was a possible party member. I was busy killing all of the goblins and she was hanging out with two of them, so I snuck up on her and attacked her before she could say anything.

To me a warlock is a bad mage combined with a bad fighter. If I want one of those, I can make a better one by multiclassing monk and sorcerer. Honestly, I didn't give Wyl that much of a chance, though, so I may have missed some positives about the class.

Warlocks are just regular mages really. They only get two spell slots of their highest spell level, but they get them back after every short rest, so you should be able to use both in every fight. They can also get some extra spells to use once every long rest from their subclass and/or Invocations. Other than that they just have a very powerful cantrip in Eldritch Blast for when the fight takes more than 2 turns (or you have the Repelling Blast invocation and see an enemy near a cliff/drop).

As for Paladin, I haven't tried one because I killed Minthara. They are very good in Solasta, but I don't like that you can so easily break your oath in BG3 and be forced into an evil subclass. I prefer playing more pragmatically and doing things like deceiving evil characters (breaks Oath of Devotion) or making characters keep the peace (breaks the Oath of Vengeance) or to attack sometimes even if there are more peaceful options (breaks the Oath of the Ancients). So, basically, it just doesn't work with my personality.

I didn't know you could break your oath in Baldur's Gate 3, that does seem annoying.

 

[Frindis]

Does it matter if you don't really sound like that so long as you think you do?

I always go for blissful ignorance

I didn't realise Minthara was a possible party member. I was busy killing all of the goblins and she was hanging out with two of them, so I snuck up on her and attacked her before she could say anything.

She is basically Lae'zel done right. I'm not a Lae'zel hater, I just think she is a bit to overplayed when it comes to her voice and how she reacts.