Are you immune to bugs others are reporting

[mjs warlord]

In recent weeks i have revisited Blacksad , Grim fandango , Crystal rift, The Witness and my all time favourite Satisfactory to name just a few. I have completed them all without a problem and am still using Satisfactory without a problem yet players are still reporting problems.

Here is a random selection of comments i have seen about different games.

1. black screen .. wont launch
2. this game is bleep .. without even giving a reason
3. pc running flat when on menus and not actually playing the game.
4. Distorted sound.
5. stuttering movement
6. where are the multiplayers
7. dont buy this game its dead
8. customer service sucks
9. where are the saves
10. constant crashing ... no reason given.
11. and the worst of all chapter 7 is broken so you cant finish it.
I am sure you could all add a few to the list.

Yesterday on satisfactory Q & A forum page a guy posted at least 40 reasons why he hated the game , i dont know if his comments were to stop gamers from buying the game but if that was his intention he was wasting his time because the only people to use the forum are players who already own the game.

I have seen lots of bad comments about games that i own but here is the key thing .... if i did not already own them then some of the comments i have seen would deffo stop me buying them.

Here is a typical example of how adverse comments can effect sales.
In 2016 i got a dungeon crawler on steam called crystal rift made by an indie game maker , you solve puzzles , kill monsters , collect 23 idols and along the way you have to find various coloured crystals to let you open doors to the next level. It was impossible to open the doors to progress to the next level because the wrong coloured crystals were on the current level.
I spent the next week or so exchanging emails , sometimes twice a day , i eventually reported to him that i had done a complete bug free run and told him the ending , you cant go donw the last flight of steps unless you get all the idols.

I lost count of the number of threads players posted saying it was a bug fest and unplayable and every time somebody did it i posted what i had done but still the complaints continued so i eventually gave up.

My rig was top dog when it was new 8 years ago but not sure where it would rank now but it never lets me down , that said it is not imune to some problems.

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

I think theres many factors involved. For starters the amount of different hardware configurations people are using which is a huge range of possible conflicts. People are bound to get unlucky sometimes.

Added to that youve got people using old and/or poor quality PSUs that glitch out sometimes causing strange crashes, people who overclock their CPUs without stress testing them properly, people who never update BIOS or drivers, people with slightly unstable RAM running too fast XMP settings because big number go vroom that causes intermittent crashes and faults, people with overheating hardware for various reasons and on and on.

Then you have the amount of people playing games in Early Access where really it should be expected. Im not sure whether Steam updates reviews after games go 1.0 or not?

I rarely come across a bug that breaks a game, part of that is luck and part of that is me being a nerd about tuning and monitoring my system.

 

[Pifanjr]

There's a decent chance some of the complaints are also from people who have pirated an older version of the game and thus are experiencing bugs that have been patched out in a newer version. Sometimes the developer even releases pirated copies of their own games with added bugs.

 

[neogunhero]

Like the other two posts above say, there are so many different factors that could be causing people issues. @Kaamos_Llama hit it right on the nose about various hardware issues causing problems in games.

When Cyberpunk 2077 first came out, we all know how bad that launch was. I was very fortunate to play for 60 hours without encountering any massive bugs or crashes that impeded my enjoyment of the game. The main issue was performance at that time. I kept up with all the bugs and glitches people reported, and I felt very lucky that I didn’t experience anything on the scale of what people were reporting, just bad frame rates.

 

[Colif]

There is also the fact that people without problems generally don't post about it. Only those who have problems complain most of the time.
Same thing happens with Windows updates, bugs happen that only effect some people. Version updates bring them out of the woodwork.

 

[mjs warlord]

There's a decent chance some of the complaints are also from people who have pirated an older version of the game and thus are experiencing bugs that have been patched out in a newer version. Sometimes the developer even releases pirated copies of their own games with added bugs.

Hey thats a brilliant idea i never knew that.... i think ALL devs should make special versions of their games complete with bugs and viruses and upload them to the places where you can get them from. I might be wrong but as i understand it when you get a game from a questionable site you dont know who has uploaded it and thats the gamble you take.

I have only ever used a file sharing site once , i started to download the complete catalogue of a group called tangerine dream , all was good for about 10 albums then i got a big green box on screen and a dead pc .

 

[ZedClampet]

I suspect people who are having bugs in Satisfactory are on very old systems and possibly an old OS. I've honestly never seen a bug in Satisfactory unless I was in the experimental branch.

 

[mjs warlord]

I suspect people who are having bugs in Satisfactory are on very old systems and possibly an old OS. I've honestly never seen a bug in Satisfactory unless I was in the experimental branch.

Hi Zed i am the same in satisfactory players report tons of bugs on the q and a page that i have never had happen to me. The majority of bugs seem to be related to players on multi play servers or players who use mods and start crying when something goes wrong.

 

[ZedClampet]

Hi Zed i am the same in satisfactory players report tons of bugs on the q and a page that i have never had happen to me. The majority of bugs seem to be related to players on multi play servers or players who use mods and start crying when something goes wrong.

I play multiplayer in Satisfactory quite a bit and still haven't seen bugs.

My experience from looking through bug reports on Steam is that most of what people are reporting involves user error or is so minor, like clothes clipping through other clothes, that it's ridiculous to report it. Or it involves mods. You shouldn't be turning in a bug report if you use mods.

I don't care how many pages of bug reports people have written about Satisfactory. It is remarkably bug free.

Just out of curiosity, why do you care about other people's bug reports?

 

[mjs warlord]

I play multiplayer in Satisfactory quite a bit and still haven't seen bugs.

My experience from looking through bug reports on Steam is that most of what people are reporting involves user error or is so minor, like clothes clipping through other clothes, that it's ridiculous to report it. Or it involves mods. You shouldn't be turning in a bug report if you use mods.

I don't care how many pages of bug reports people have written about Satisfactory. It is remarkably bug free.

Just out of curiosity, why do you care about other people's bug reports?

I am just puzzled why players report things i dont have happen to me. scroll back up and look at what i said about crystal rift.

On satisfactory q and a you see some real odd ball comments such as can we have furniture , i just say go get the sims.

Can we have the game run whilst were in bed .... i say how would you feel if your nuke power and production went all bad whilst you slept .... you would want it removing.

A few days ago a guy listed about 30 things he hated about satisfactory .... i will leave you to guess what sort of replies he got.

Used it for almost 3 years now .. its my all time fave game

 

[ZedClampet]

I am just puzzled why players report things i dont have happen to me. scroll back up and look at what i said about crystal rift.



A few days ago a guy listed about 30 things he hated about satisfactory .... i will leave you to guess what sort of replies he got.

I guarantee you this is a Factorio fanboy who can't sleep at night because of the rage he feels when someone says they like Satisfactory better.

 

[mjs warlord]

I guarantee you this is a Factorio fanboy who can't sleep at night because of the rage he feels when someone says they like Satisfactory better.

I tried the demo version of factorio but just could not get into it , maybe its because the top down graphics make it look like it was made in the 1980's. I have also looked at other so called construction games but nothing comes close to satisfactory. I bet a lot of companies are wishing they could do one as good

 

[red_5ive]

I'm immune to them usually, yes. They don't affect me. I'm a strong person.

My rig on the other hand is, well, the same for the most part. I rarely ever experience bugs that people complain about, although I also don't pay much attention other than what I see people post in Steam comments/reviews for a game that I'm interested in. That said, the last bug I can think of was Star Wars: Outlaws. That one had/has a memory leak where after about a couple of hours of gameplay, all the GPU vram gets eaten up, resulting in choppy gameplay. But it didn't always happen. I just took used it as a means to take a break, grab a snack and refill my coffee mug.

 

[ZedClampet]

I'm immune to them usually, yes. They don't affect me. I'm a strong person.

My rig on the other hand is, well, the same for the most part. I rarely ever experience bugs that people complain about, although I also don't pay much attention other than what I see people post in Steam comments/reviews for a game that I'm interested in. That said, the last bug I can think of was Star Wars: Outlaws. That one had/has a memory leak where after about a couple of hours of gameplay, all the GPU vram gets eaten up, resulting in choppy gameplay. But it didn't always happen. I just took used it as a means to take a break, grab a snack and refill my coffee mug.

Most of the bugs people report in Steam user reviews are user error, so I'm assuming that's true for bugs as a whole.

 

[red_5ive]

Most of the bugs people report in Steam user reviews are user error, so I'm assuming that's true for bugs as a whole.

Yeah. And I just mean in passing, too. I don't go looking for said info necessarily, more-so to see what users are saying, particularly if overall reaction is generally negative. But if people complain about the same bug, then of course I'll consider that a red flag.

 

[Zloth]

I remember I would crash fairly often playing Wrath of the Righteous. Nobody else was. I didn't experience much crashing in other games before or since WotR. I played that thing for 245 hours and never did figure out how to stop the crashing. Nobody else on the forums had issues. I tried all the various tricks but, for whatever reason, that game and my PC never got along well.

 

[Colif]

Most of the bugs people report in Steam user reviews are user error, so I'm assuming that's true for bugs as a whole.

in early access games you bound to find some as you are beta testing them. Same could be said for AAA games too, given amount of testing run on them before release... What does QA mean again?

Sacred 1 patches used to introduce more bugs.

 

[ZedClampet]

in early access games you bound to find some as you are beta testing them. Same could be said for AAA games too, given amount of testing run on them before release... What does QA mean again?

Sacred 1 patches used to introduce more bugs.

Not really true of early access anymore. Most of them launch in significantly better shape than AAA, and updates are often kept in the experimental branch until thoroughly tested.

The most common bug reported in user reviews (Based solely on my history of looking through them) is that the game launches to a black screen. That almost always means the user didn't update their video driver. But user reviews that report bugs generally have some sort of launch problem. Another frequent cause is not meeting the hardware requirements, or just trying to use 10 to 15 year old hardware.

 

[Colif]

I have reported a few in the games I play that have been confirmed by developers. So it does happen. I don't read bug reports on a lot of games though. Only the ones I play and if I am bored/have a problem myself.

 

[Frindis]

Depends on the bug I guess. If there is something wrong with for example boss mechanics, loot drops, or damage scaling/migration, then it is very likely I will experience the same bug. If the bug is more related to hardware issues like with the game crashing, then I might be lucky and never experience those because I did not have the affected hardware.

 

[Johnway]

A mixed bag tbh. Sometimes i get away with the worst of the bugs as i play the game after a few patches. But like other people i encounter bugs that have been reported.