For sure, Civ 4 & 5 weren't the great games they are now until the 2nd & final expansion for each—and of course, the few bug fix patches thereafter to clean things up.4X genre doesn't seem to be able to do without them
I am going to answer this part separate when it comes to 4X. Those games are so deep, and complicated that they need player input on 2 aspects. 1, what should the devs spend there time on because sometimes some things are not fun, and even certain aspects of things need to be focused in ways you don't see right away. this needs the player feedback. For instance so many players wanting religion as a focus in Civ V for god's and Kings.The 4X genre doesn't seem to be able to do without them!
One problem I have with OP's question is that there are a lot of games, like StarCraft, that I haven't played without DLC.I have to go old school.
As much as i like Vanilla StarCraft, I'd have to add brood war to this list. The huge campaign, with the addition of those key units made SC turn into the world wide super hit that changed gaming for ever. It's kinda hard not to put this one at the top.
But you still know what parts of it are and aren't part of the DLC, right?
Not with all games. I have no idea what Starcraft Broodwar changed to the game. With CK2 DLC, I usually have at least an idea of which mechanics are introduced by which DLC, but not perfectly and it's hard to say whether they're good if I haven't played without them.But you still know what parts of it are and aren't part of the DLC, right?