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[Colif]

Programs that read sensors can conflict with each other.
I stopped using Fan Control when I found it wasn't showing the same temps as HWINFO was.
That and it relies on a driver that is an open door for viruses. Its using a 3rd party driver that defender has been known to see as malware
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Otherwise I would use it myself.

The motherboard software I use to control fans agrees with the temps HWINFO shows.

love how imgur always seems to be running maintenance when I want to use it.

what length is the hysteresis on the fan in Fan Control?
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[Zed Clampet]

Programs that read sensors can conflict with each other.
I stopped using Fan Control when I found it wasn't showing the same temps as HWINFO was.
That and it relies on a driver that is an open door for viruses. Its using a 3rd party driver that defender has been known to see as malware
Link
Otherwise I would use it myself.

The motherboard software I use to control fans agrees with the temps HWINFO shows.

love how imgur always seems to be running maintenance when I want to use it.

what length is the hysteresis on the fan in Fan Control?
reddit link

Hysteresis is 2. I changed it to 4. Didn't fix anything.

 

[Colif]

The temps that Fan Control gives me seem to be wrong. Just sitting here on the forums with nothing else running, it thinks my CPU temp is 73. Meanwhile, Afterburner is giving me 32 degrees.

If I go into open-world game V-Rising (I have my FPS locked to my monitor refresh rate of 120, so my components aren't working at 100 percent), Fan Control shows my CPU temps dropping to 55 while MSi Afterburner shows them rising, as expected, to the low to mid 40s.`

Okay, 2 doesn't explain the difference
Nor does it make sense that the difference would be explained by both looking at a different sensor, as there are two choices for CPU

• Cores
• Package - exterior of CPU

It doesn't make sense as in most cases the temp difference between both is about 10 to 12c at most, at idle, not 40c.
My cores at idle are on 24c, but package is on 36c. Only times they ever close is if I running an antivirus full system scan. That makes CPU think.

I think you need to work out which of those two temps is right, and if fan control is way over what it should be, use something else to control them.
If fan control is right and you idle at 73c, there are more problems than just software
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Info - How to use HWINFO to track temps on PC

Download HWINFO - https://www.hwinfo.com/download/ when you open the app, click the tick box next to show sensors only, and click run in the next window, click on the gear icon in bottom right, this opens settings. On General tab, under polling period, set it to 500 and click the set button...

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I know it makes it easier but if its wrong, its no real point. It doesn't help if it reacts incorrectly to CPU speed increases. Especially since it controls them.

who made motherboard you use? There might be fan control software from them you could use instead.

 

[Zed Clampet]

Okay, 2 doesn't explain the difference
Nor does it make sense that the difference would be explained by both looking at a different sensor, as there are two choices for CPU

• Cores
• Package - exterior of CPU

It doesn't make sense as in most cases the temp difference between both is about 10 to 12c at most, at idle, not 40c.
My cores at idle are on 24c, but package is on 36c. Only times they ever close is if I running an antivirus full system scan. That makes CPU think.

I think you need to work out which of those two temps is right, and if fan control is way over what it should be, use something else to control them.
If fan control is right and you idle at 73c, there are more problems than just software
3rd opinion

Info - How to use HWINFO to track temps on PC

Download HWINFO - https://www.hwinfo.com/download/ when you open the app, click the tick box next to show sensors only, and click run in the next window, click on the gear icon in bottom right, this opens settings. On General tab, under polling period, set it to 500 and click the set button...

forums.pcgamer.com

I know it makes it easier but if its wrong, its no real point. It doesn't help if it reacts incorrectly to CPU speed increases. Especially since it controls them.

who made motherboard you use? There might be fan control software from them you could use instead.

Well, Fan Control is definitely not right because it shows the CPU temps dropping the higher the CPU usage.

My motherboard is a Gigabyte, and I'm downloading their "Control Center" now...

 

[Colif]

ok, the same thing I use. I don't know how it all works, I just make do

 

[Colif]

Be careful of control centre. It includes a driver updater which by itself is a fine feature, but for a purely profit driven reason, it also includes Norton Antivirus, and if you don't unselect it when you download drivers, you may get an unwanted surprise.

Last time i updated the Gigabyte Control Centre (GCC) itself, I unticked Norton, but the program updated control centre first, and then proceeded to download Norton. I had to close the program and log out of windows to stop it. Then I came back to GCC and only ticked the parts I wanted. I have to now remember to do that next time it runs.. I have set it to only update every 3 months now.

its not showing any now but a few days ago it was offering me my new BIOS. I know better than to update BIOS in windows. I already have it on a USB drive, maybe I do it this weekend.

 

[Zed Clampet]

Never mind. Fan Control wasn't giving me the temperature of the CPU. It was giving me the difference between the CPU temperature and the throttle temperature.

Everything is good now.

 

[Colif]

Never mind. Fan Control wasn't giving me the temperature of the CPU. It was giving me the difference between the CPU temperature and the throttle temperature.

Everything is good now.

that explains why it was shrinking as temps ascended.
I don't seem to have a sensor that shows a descending value, mine just show what is actual.
I seem to recall one in the past though. Mine just show actual temps

You can have too many sensors to pick from, so it can be confusing. Lucky motherboard only sees so many. HWINFO sees too much

Fan control in theory can use HWINFO info for temps. I tried to get it to work last year but I never managed.

GitHub - Rem0o/FanControl.HWInfo: FanControl plugin to import HWInfo sensors.

FanControl plugin to import HWInfo sensors. Contribute to Rem0o/FanControl.HWInfo development by creating an account on GitHub.

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