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[Kaamos_Llama]

I've decided to get an Intel CPU. Using various benchmark services, there just wasn't an AMD that clearly beat the Intel CPU, and usually they used almost twice as much power and were much more expensive. AMD has become fashionable beyond what they deserve.

Interested to see your sources on that one, are you talking about enterprise models?

 

[neogunhero]

I've never had a driver problem with Nvidia, but whenever there are odd bugs and performance problems that people are talking about on Steam, it's almost always the case that they are using AMD.

I feel this is more of an issue with newer GPU's when they first hit the market. I remember having black screen issues with my RTX 2060 when it was brand new, but driver updates fixed that and haven't had any issues relating to drivers since.

I've decided to get an Intel CPU. Using various benchmark services, there just wasn't an AMD that clearly beat the Intel CPU, and usually they used almost twice as much power and were much more expensive. AMD has become fashionable beyond what they deserve.

Agree with Kaamos on this one. Just from my general knowledge, I always believed Intel to run hotter, use more power and cost more on the MSRP. From the things I've seen, AMD can match and sometimes outperform Intel chips, but specifically in gaming. When it comes to AI or productivity, I'm unsure which is the best.

 

[Colif]

Gaming its not even close

When it comes to AI or productivity, I'm unsure which is the best.

Productivity depends on the applications tested, and how new the tests are to which CPU are included, the 9950x3d changed a few things. If its a graphical application, its likely AMD, but other things tend to go Intel.
I can't find as much on AI

Just from my general knowledge, I always believed Intel to run hotter, use more power and cost more on the MSRP.

Up until recently, before Intel CPU all run up to 6ghz, Intel CPU were cooler than AMD.

My 4690k hit 16c at idle one night... the lowest I seen my AMD CPU is about 19c one night when it was really cold and I had just started PC. Admittedly they have all had more cores than my I5 did.

I know recently AMD CPU have used less power, a by product of not running at 6ghz
I agree with the price thing, It is main reason I looked at them over Intel... that and game performance.

AMD vs Intel in 2025: Gaming, Performance & Pricing Compared

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one of their reasons to buy Intel is if you need an igpu, all of the 7000 and 9000 series have an igpu.

it also depends on if he talking desktop or laptops. I mostly ignore laptops so I wouldn't know there.

 

[ZedClampet]

Interested to see your sources on that one, are you talking about enterprise models?

Ryzen 7 - 9800x3d versus Intel core i7-14700f​

I went into this wanting to buy the 9800x3D. I told @Colif as much just recently, but money plays a factor, as does power usage, which is almost double in the AMD CPU, and I was going to have to get a 1000 watt psu instead of an 850.

But when I went to benchmarking sites, there was little performance difference. In fact, the PassMark was better for the Intel CPU, and when I checked various games, they listed a slight advantage for the Intel chip. Overall, including the single core advantage of the AMD, there just wasn't much difference except for the money and power usage.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/6344vs5834/AMD-Ryzen-7-9800X3D-vs-Intel-Core-i7-14700F (passmark)

Ryzen 7 9800X3D vs i7-14700F [1-Benchmark Showdown]

Comparing Intel Core i7-14700F with AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D: technical specs, games and benchmarks.

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There were a couple more sites, but it was just the same stuff. I'm sure that the single core performance of the 9800x3D is an advantage in some cases.

I looked at 3 more AMD chips, and almost decided to splurge and get the 9900x3D, and maybe some day I will. The other two chips were decidedly a worse deal than the 14700f.

Lastly I realize that 13th and 14th gen Intel chips have had some serious problems, but Intel claims the lower wattage of the F fixed the problem

 

[ZedClampet]

I feel this is more of an issue with newer GPU's when they first hit the market. I remember having black screen issues with my RTX 2060 when it was brand new, but driver updates fixed that and haven't had any issues relating to drivers since.

No, this is a persistent problem

Agree with Kaamos on this one. Just from my general knowledge, I always believed Intel to run hotter, use more power and cost more on the MSRP. From the things I've seen, AMD can match and sometimes outperform Intel chips, but specifically in gaming. When it comes to AI or productivity, I'm unsure which is the best.

Um, you're a bit confused. No big deal. I'm always confused. However, with 100 percent certainty, I can tell you that AMD has always been known to use more power. It also had a reputation for running hotter, but that was just because it took more to cool them due to the power usage. AMD has always had to brute force both their CPUs and their GPUs to try to keep up with their competition, though they've clearly fallen well behind Nvidia now. And in this one particular case, they cost quite a bit more. See my post before this one for the info on what I was looking at.

 

[ZedClampet]

It's a rough life being on a board with AMD superfans

God as my witness, if it weren't for AI, which I do more than gaming, I'd have gotten an AMD GPU. And if the price/power had been comparable, I'd have gotten an AMD CPU. Unlike some people, I could not care less about these ignorant chip wars, although the AMD fanboys are beginning to turn me off a bit.