My first PC build advice

[coof11]

Hi everyone, I'm new to PC building and PC gaming in general but will be building my first PC with the help of my brother. He has helped me compile a list of parts and I've already started ordering the parts since I trust his advice as a PC gamer himself.

The purpose of my PC would be for non-competitive gaming but I would like to enjoy 2k graphics. The other purpose would be to use heavy software applications such as Adobe or CAD etc.

Here's the build with pricing for reference:

AMD Ryzen 7 9700X Zen 5 AM5 8 Core Processor	£299.99​
Gigabyte Radeon RX 7800 XT 16GB Graphics Card	£463.71​
GIGABYTE UD850GM Power Supply Unit - 850W, 80 PLUS Gold	£86.95​
CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 32GB	£97.98​
DeepCool AK400 Digital CPU Processor 120mm	£37.11​
MSI MAG 274QRFW 27 Inch WQHD Gaming Monitor - 2560 x 1440 IPS 1ms	£119.98​
MSI MAG 274QRFW 27 Inch WQHD Gaming Monitor - 2560 x 1440 IPS 1ms	£119.98​
AMSI MAG FORGE 120A AIRFLOW Mid-Tower PC Case	£59.99​
MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI Motherboard ATX	£144.99​
Samsung 990 PRO Heatsink NVMe M.2 SSD 1 TB	£86.49​
ARCTIC P12 PWM PST (5 Pack) PC Fan 120mm	£26.49​
CardSilkland VESA Certified DisplayPort Cable 1.4 2M	£5.99​
ARCTIC MX-4 (4 g) - Premium Performance Thermal Paste	£4.50​

I will be putting it together myself as my brother lives in another country. So any advice on the building process would also be appreciated.

Thanks!

 

[Colif]

You might be okay but Arctic P12 fans can cause a noise between 800 and 1200 RPM - its reason I replaced 3 of mine on my AIO.

You might want another drive, even if its not a gaming PC. Storage is always useful.

looks okay to me.

 

[coof11]

That's a good point, good thing I haven't ordered the fans yet. What fans would you suggest? And yes I plan on adding more drives in the future for sure!

 

[Colif]

That's a good point, good thing I haven't ordered the fans yet. What fans would you suggest? And yes I plan on adding more drives in the future for sure!

That depends how much you want to pay for fans. The Arctic ones are cheap... I mean, I can get 3 of the RGB PWM 120mm fans for same cost as one of the Lian LI TL 120 fans I replaced them with...

I wouldn't get Corsair as they more expensive than Lian LI. And require you to use their software to control them.
Noctua make good fans if you don't want RGB, Not cheap though.

Bequiet make good fans as well, especially if you don't want RGB. They have good airflow numbers on the Silent wings fans
I only avoided them due to cables. The 3 lian li fans I have all attach together physically and only need one power cable for all 3. Bequiet don't have that system

SILENT WINGS PRO 4 | 120mm PWM silent high-end Fans from be quiet!

LEGENDARY SILENCE, EPIC PERFORMANCE AND FEATURES

www.bequiet.com

I don't recall any other brands, I only recently replaced mine... about 3 weeks ago.

 

[coof11]

That depends how much you want to pay for fans. The Arctic ones are cheap... I mean, I can get 3 of the RGB PWM 120mm fans for same cost as one of the Lian LI TL 120 fans I replaced them with...

I wouldn't get Corsair as they more expensive than Lian LI. And require you to use their software to control them.
Noctua make good fans if you don't want RGB, Not cheap though.

Bequiet make good fans as well, especially if you don't want RGB. They have good airflow numbers on the Silent wings fans
I only avoided them due to cables. The 3 lian li fans I have all attach together physically and only need one power cable for all 3. Bequiet don't have that system

SILENT WINGS PRO 4 | 120mm PWM silent high-end Fans from be quiet!

LEGENDARY SILENCE, EPIC PERFORMANCE AND FEATURES

www.bequiet.com

I don't recall any other brands, I only recently replaced mine... about 3 weeks ago.

I like the look of the Lian Li for sure! But for the single exhaust fan it's not really worth it for the price of one. Or should I just get a cheap single fans for the exhaust?

 

[coof11]

That depends how much you want to pay for fans. The Arctic ones are cheap... I mean, I can get 3 of the RGB PWM 120mm fans for same cost as one of the Lian LI TL 120 fans I replaced them with...

I wouldn't get Corsair as they more expensive than Lian LI. And require you to use their software to control them.
Noctua make good fans if you don't want RGB, Not cheap though.

Bequiet make good fans as well, especially if you don't want RGB. They have good airflow numbers on the Silent wings fans
I only avoided them due to cables. The 3 lian li fans I have all attach together physically and only need one power cable for all 3. Bequiet don't have that system

SILENT WINGS PRO 4 | 120mm PWM silent high-end Fans from be quiet!

LEGENDARY SILENCE, EPIC PERFORMANCE AND FEATURES

www.bequiet.com

I don't recall any other brands, I only recently replaced mine... about 3 weeks ago.

Also do you think the fans that comes with some cases would be good? Something like this?

MSI MAG PANO M100R PZ - White

Order MSI MAG PANO M100R PZ - White now online and benefit from fast delivery.

www.overclockers.co.uk

 

[Why_Me]

Hi everyone, I'm new to PC building and PC gaming in general but will be building my first PC with the help of my brother. He has helped me compile a list of parts and I've already started ordering the parts since I trust his advice as a PC gamer himself.

The purpose of my PC would be for non-competitive gaming but I would like to enjoy 2k graphics. The other purpose would be to use heavy software applications such as Adobe or CAD etc.

Here's the build with pricing for reference:

AMD Ryzen 7 9700X Zen 5 AM5 8 Core Processor	£299.99​
Gigabyte Radeon RX 7800 XT 16GB Graphics Card	£463.71​
GIGABYTE UD850GM Power Supply Unit - 850W, 80 PLUS Gold	£86.95​
CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 32GB	£97.98​
DeepCool AK400 Digital CPU Processor 120mm	£37.11​
MSI MAG 274QRFW 27 Inch WQHD Gaming Monitor - 2560 x 1440 IPS 1ms	£119.98​
MSI MAG 274QRFW 27 Inch WQHD Gaming Monitor - 2560 x 1440 IPS 1ms	£119.98​
AMSI MAG FORGE 120A AIRFLOW Mid-Tower PC Case	£59.99​
MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI Motherboard ATX	£144.99​
Samsung 990 PRO Heatsink NVMe M.2 SSD 1 TB	£86.49​
ARCTIC P12 PWM PST (5 Pack) PC Fan 120mm	£26.49​
CardSilkland VESA Certified DisplayPort Cable 1.4 2M	£5.99​
ARCTIC MX-4 (4 g) - Premium Performance Thermal Paste	£4.50​

I will be putting it together myself as my brother lives in another country. So any advice on the building process would also be appreciated.

Thanks!

Size up on your cpu cooler, low profile RAM so that the RAM heatsinks don't impede said cooler, size up on your SSD, Nvidia gpu to cut those rendering times in half and a PCIe 5.0 psu for these RTX 40XX cards due to the adapter.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-super-founders-edition/37.html

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE ARGB 58 CFM CPU Cooler (£39.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£92.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: *Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£94.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card (£575.77 @ MoreCoCo)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£79.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Total: £882.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-11 22:27 GMT+0000

 

[coof11]

Size up on your cpu cooler, low profile RAM so that the RAM heatsinks don't impede said cooler, size up on your SSD, Nvidia gpu to cut those rendering times in half and a PCIe 5.0 psu for these RTX 40XX cards due to the adapter.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-super-founders-edition/37.html

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE ARGB 58 CFM CPU Cooler (£39.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£92.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: *Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£94.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card (£575.77 @ MoreCoCo)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£79.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Total: £882.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-11 22:27 GMT+0000

Thank you for the list! And yes we were also discussing the RTX 4070 it's an extra £200 from the RX9700 but I might just make that jump considering what you said about rendering. And youre probably also right about the low profile RAM, makes sense to me now. As for the CPU cooler I was also considering a water cooler but I guess I can always upgrade that in the future.

 

[Colif]

Also do you think the fans that comes with some cases would be good? Something like this?

It can depend.
There are two types of fans
3 pin DC fans
4 pin PWM fans

The difference is in how much control you have over the fan speed. In a lot of cases, they only have DC fans which can only be controlled by voltage in the BIOS. Better cases tend to offer the PWM ones which are far easier to adjust the fan speeds of, there are programs that let you. Or just let bios control them... thats what I do now.
That MSI case has PWM. 3 reverse blade on intake and 1 normal direction on exhaust. I don't know how good fans are but they way better than buying replacements like I did. If you bought that you wouldn't need the extra fans.

wish i had low profile ram, when I replaced the 3 fans on my AIO with the Lian LI ones I did consider air cooling instead but finding a cooler good enough to get over the heat spreaders on my Ram and fit under glass on side of case was pointless. PC always had AIO so it was never a concern about ram height before.

 

[coof11]

It can depend.
There are two types of fans
3 pin DC fans
4 pin PWM fans

The difference is in how much control you have over the fan speed. In a lot of cases, they only have DC fans which can only be controlled by voltage in the BIOS. Better cases tend to offer the PWM ones which are far easier to adjust the fan speeds of, there are programs that let you. Or just let bios control them... thats what I do now.
That MSI case has PWM. 3 reverse blade on intake and 1 normal direction on exhaust. I don't know how good fans are but they way better than buying replacements like I did. If you bought that you wouldn't need the extra fans.

wish i had low profile ram, when I replaced the 3 fans on my AIO with the Lian LI ones I did consider air cooling instead but finding a cooler good enough to get over the heat spreaders on my Ram and fit under glass on side of case was pointless. PC always had AIO so it was never a concern about ram height before.

Your setup looks sick! Thank you for the advice on fans, never noticed the meaning of PWM fans. I have my eyes on a new Lian Li case that comes with prebuilt fans since I was looking at Lian Li fans too -
https://computerorbit.com/products/lian-li-lancool-iii-rgb-atx-pc-case-white?variant=43452848308466

And I just checked they are PWM fans. I am thinking of getting a water cooler too, would you recommend it?

 

[Colif]

Water cooling can have risks such as water leaks. I think on my first PC build I would stick to air cooling. Less chance of problems, can be just as good.

I myself haven't had any leaks but I am on 2nd AIO for this PC. The first one was a Corsair 240mm that didn't take kindly to me swapping my CPU and giving it more work to do. It started to die and I replaced it with the 360 I have now. It made a difference... except it had the Arctic fans I told you about. So I have spent way more money on cooling than I should have. (I swapped the 2 case fans with 2 Noctua fans as well).

My 3rd PC had a Lian Li case, I haven't used them in almost 20 years now. They make good cases, they always have. Choosing the case will be the hardest part for me in next PC... but I have a year or more to think about that.

 

[coof11]

Water cooling can have risks such as water leaks. I think on my first PC build I would stick to air cooling. Less chance of problems, can be just as good.

I myself haven't had any leaks but I am on 2nd AIO for this PC. The first one was a Corsair 240mm that didn't take kindly to me swapping my CPU and giving it more work to do. It started to die and I replaced it with the 360 I have now. It made a difference... except it had the Arctic fans I told you about. So I have spent way more money on cooling than I should have. (I swapped the 2 case fans with 2 Noctua fans as well).

My 3rd PC had a Lian Li case, I haven't used them in almost 20 years now. They make good cases, they always have. Choosing the case will be the hardest part for me in next PC... but I have a year or more to think about t

You're probably right, I just like the digital thermometer on the aio but I guess I can try find and air cooler with that too!

 

[Colif]

There can be downsides to digital displays that show temps in that unless their app is well written, the constant polling of the CPU sensor to see temp can increase temps on the CPU. That and needing to constantly refresh the screen does it too.
I know as the 3 Lian li fans I have, have LCD screens in the centres. And if I set the sensors up to show the CPU temp, GPU temp and Fan speeds on the 3 fan hubs, it raises temp of CPU by 10c.

old photo before I just swapped to using a static image on the fans - The Lian LI logo.

Its summer here, last thing I need is the fans on the AIO increasing the temp of the CPU they meant to cool... counter productive. I might try it out in winter when ambient temp is lower. Going to be 40c here on Monday so not the right time of year for it.

Now it could be the lian li software just sucks, and others are better. I haven't really looked into it a great deal.

 

[Why_Me]

You're probably right, I just like the digital thermometer on the aio but I guess I can try find and air cooler with that too!

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/deepcool-ak620-digital
43mm+ RAM compatibility
In its default configuration, the AK620 Digital has room for DDR4 & DDR5 modules up to 43mm (1.69 inches) in height. However, you can move the fan slightly higher to accommodate taller RAM.

Replace the 140mm exhaust fan that's included with this case with the 140mm ARGB fan down below if you desire the full effect.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 DIGITAL WH 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (£64.99 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£95.17 @ Amazon UK)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (£105.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Case Fan: *Lian Li UNI FAN SL V2 77.6 CFM 140 mm Fan (£25.95 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £291.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-12 21:24 GMT+0000

AK620 DIGITAL WH - DeepCool

The era of digital air coolers has arrived, and DeepCool is proud to introduce the AK620 DIGITAL WH. Everything you loved about the original AK620 WH, but with a sleek low-profile magnetic status display and ARGB LED strips. - DeepCool was founded with the mission of providing professional...

www.deepcool.com

 

[coof11]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/deepcool-ak620-digital
43mm+ RAM compatibility
In its default configuration, the AK620 Digital has room for DDR4 & DDR5 modules up to 43mm (1.69 inches) in height. However, you can move the fan slightly higher to accommodate taller RAM.

Replace the 140mm exhaust fan that's included with this case with the 140mm ARGB fan down below if you desire the full effect.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 DIGITAL WH 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (£64.99 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£95.17 @ Amazon UK)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (£105.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Case Fan: *Lian Li UNI FAN SL V2 77.6 CFM 140 mm Fan (£25.95 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £291.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-12 21:24 GMT+0000

AK620 DIGITAL WH - DeepCool

The era of digital air coolers has arrived, and DeepCool is proud to introduce the AK620 DIGITAL WH. Everything you loved about the original AK620 WH, but with a sleek low-profile magnetic status display and ARGB LED strips. - DeepCool was founded with the mission of providing professional...

www.deepcool.com

Nice I'll get the fan its exactly what Im looking for!

 

[coof11]

Thank you all for your feedback and advice! Only part that I've ordered is the CPU I'll be staying with the Ryzen 7 9700X. But here's an updated parts list for the rest of the build:

Corsair MP700 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe Gen5	£209.99​
MSI X670E GAMING PLUS WIFI Motherboard	£213.48​
Lian Li Lancool III RGB Full Tower PC Case	£135.00​
MSI 850W ATX Fully Modular Power Supply - MAG A850GL PCIE5 WHITE	£130.00​
MSI NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12GB GAMING X SLIM WHITE	£659.99​
Corsair Vengeance RGB White 32GB 6000MHz DDR5	£121.99​
DeepCool AK620 Digital ARGB PWM Tower Air Cooler	£64.99​

It's also turned into a white PC build and will be costing me an extra £500 give or take from the original list.

 

[Why_Me]

Thank you all for your feedback and advice! Only part that I've ordered is the CPU I'll be staying with the Ryzen 7 9700X. But here's an updated parts list for the rest of the build:

Corsair MP700 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe Gen5	£209.99​
MSI X670E GAMING PLUS WIFI Motherboard	£213.48​
Lian Li Lancool III RGB Full Tower PC Case	£135.00​
MSI 850W ATX Fully Modular Power Supply - MAG A850GL PCIE5 WHITE	£130.00​
MSI NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12GB GAMING X SLIM WHITE	£659.99​
Corsair Vengeance RGB White 32GB 6000MHz DDR5	£121.99​
DeepCool AK620 Digital ARGB PWM Tower Air Cooler	£64.99​

It's also turned into a white PC build and will be costing me an extra £500 give or take from the original list.

PCPartPicker Part List

Storage: *Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£143.00 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £143.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-14 15:27 GMT+0000

 

[JCgames]

Are you in a super rush? If not early next year nividia is releasing the 5000 series cards, I would wait on the GPU to see those benchmarks and release. More than likely you will see some deals on the 4000 cards, and it just might be worth getting the 5000 series.
I know for me personally I'm waiting and I'm running a 10600 on asus z490 prime a, 64gb ram corsair 2666, asus 1060 6gb gpu 1tb 980 ssd, 2tb ssd 980, 2tb seagate hddd. I run at 1080 and its rock solid and stable as a stonewall. My lquid cooler keeps it at 40-50 and if i run turbo which one game likes it bumps to 60 which is still decent.
Depending on what happens with the cpus i might even push it to mid 2026 as the comp os only 4 years old and still going strong . Of course maybe I'll change my mind after playing flight Sim 2024, but I think at 1080 and my ram it should handle at lower settings.

That's my advice, other than that your comp seams just fine. Though I think I might spend a bit extra on a nice water cooler, especially if you are in a smaller space and don't run your ac cold. The cooler will help and good ones are quiet.

 

[coof11]

Are you in a super rush? If not early next year nividia is releasing the 5000 series cards, I would wait on the GPU to see those benchmarks and release. More than likely you will see some deals on the 4000 cards, and it just might be worth getting the 5000 series.
I know for me personally I'm waiting and I'm running a 10600 on asus z490 prime a, 64gb ram corsair 2666, asus 1060 6gb gpu 1tb 980 ssd, 2tb ssd 980, 2tb seagate hddd. I run at 1080 and its rock solid and stable as a stonewall. My lquid cooler keeps it at 40-50 and if i run turbo which one game likes it bumps to 60 which is still decent.
Depending on what happens with the cpus i might even push it to mid 2026 as the comp os only 4 years old and still going strong . Of course maybe I'll change my mind after playing flight Sim 2024, but I think at 1080 and my ram it should handle at lower settings.

That's my advice, other than that your comp seams just fine. Though I think I might spend a bit extra on a nice water cooler, especially if you are in a smaller space and don't run your ac cold. The cooler will help and good ones are quiet.

That may be a good idea. I'm not in a rush. Around when is the 5000 series releasing?

Also what does it mean when you say you're running a 10600? I've read people saying similar things. Sorry I'm new to all this.

I do like the idea of a liquid cooler for sure.

In terms of games I'm not a big gamer but I have seen Warhammer 40k gameplays and I think I'd like to give that a try.

 

[JCgames]

No firm date yet, but I keep seeing early 2025, keep an eye on the main boards, they will let you know.

The cpu is intel 106000, it's from 2020, it runs close to 5.0 ghz on turbo, it has 6 cores and 12 threads and draws just 65w. so it's a low draw cool running chip. basically for what I play it's perfect. midnight suns is the game I play with the highest system use. Lamplighter, dungeons of naheulbeuk, crusader kings 3, battletech, no man's sky are some games I run that the machine runs great. I'll be picking up dragon age veilgaurd and flight Sim 2024 this year, I think at 1080 the should both be fine. games run between 60-100 fps on a 1080 120 hrz monitor

 

[coof11]

No firm date yet, but I keep seeing early 2025, keep an eye on the main boards, they will let you know.

The cpu is intel 106000, it's from 2020, it runs close to 5.0 ghz on turbo, it has 6 cores and 12 threads and draws just 65w. so it's a low draw cool running chip. basically for what I play it's perfect. midnight suns is the game I play with the highest system use. Lamplighter, dungeons of naheulbeuk, crusader kings 3, battletech, no man's sky are some games I run that the machine runs great. I'll be picking up dragon age veilgaurd and flight Sim 2024 this year, I think at 1080 the should both be fine. games run between 60-100 fps on a 1080 120 hrz monitor

Nice! Guess I'll just buy the rest of the parts and leave the GPU last. I know it depends where you live but which websites would usually do good deals do you think?

 

[JCgames]

Well I typically buy stuff from newegg , amazon or direct from the manufacturer.
To save money though I like to carry the gpu to my next build, that way you can wait a year or two and spread the cost as the gpu can be close to the cost of the rest or you can add more ram or storage, though that can lead to some bottlenecks, but when done right, especially if you are not running the highest end stuff, aka mid range parts it works our well. Besides today's mid range was top end a few years earlier. You just waited and saved money

Infact my next comp I build will be the first one in 25 years that I didn't carry over the gpu but I digress