June 2025 PCG Article Discussion

[Zed Clampet]

All the The Elder Scrolls games are up to 75% off in Bethesda's weekend sale, with 20% off Oblivion Remastered

Big discounts off Morrowind, OG Oblivion, and all the different versions of Skyrim too.

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I need to grab Morrowind.

You got Nightreigned: Elden Ring's spinoff is the most aggravating, player-hostile FromSoft game I've played, but I keep staying up past 3 AM for 'one more run'

It feels like a mod (complimentary). It feels like a mod (derogatory). I kind of hate it. I kind of love it?

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There are so many concurrent players at all times on this that I suspect people are enjoying this more than they think they are.

 

[Zed Clampet]

'We wish to express our deepest regret': Bulletstorm and Outriders dev People Can Fly suspends unannounced projects in yet another wave of gaming layoffs

Two of People Can Fly's planned mystery games may never see the light of day.

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More layoffs. Sounds like their publisher(s) got cold feet.

 

[Zed Clampet]

Nvidia's new Arm-based APU rumoured to launch in an Alienware laptop later this year with RTX 4070 mobile performance and 'breakthrough' power efficiency

Nvidia's Arm chip said to match an RTX 4070 laptop's gaming performance at barely more than half the power consumption.

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@Colif here's the real solution to the escalating GPU power problem.

 

[Colif]

shame the chances of me wasting money on anything made by Dell (they own Alienware) are way smaller than me actually buying a laptop, which in them selves are insignificant.

If the only way to get AI is through Laptops, I will buy desktops forever.

 

[Zed Clampet]

shame the chances of me wasting money on anything made by Dell (they own Alienware) are way smaller than me actually buying a laptop, which in them selves are insignificant.

If the only way to get AI is through Laptops, I will buy desktops forever.

They are just putting them in laptops first because that's the logical place to start with small, low power chips. They'll be in desktops soon enough.

 

[neogunhero]

Nvidia's new Arm-based APU rumoured to launch in an Alienware laptop later this year with RTX 4070 mobile performance and 'breakthrough' power efficiency

Nvidia's Arm chip said to match an RTX 4070 laptop's gaming performance at barely more than half the power consumption.

www.pcgamer.com

Hoping for RTX 4070 level handhelds in the near future.

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

I have a worries about ARM stuff. Part of the beauty of having a PC is that with pretty minimal effort its mostly possible to pick up almost any game from the last 40 years and get it working. Looking at how flaky the compatibility with current games is I dont hold out much hope for a lot of older games working. I guess if they kind of work then it may just be possible to brute force them playable.

Also if theyre going to make them all closed boxes or SOCs that arent upgradable by the home user as it seems that will kill custom building, which is something they probably would be happy to do from a business perspective. I won't look forward to buying a new whole box, or soldered CPU/MOBO/RAM combo every 3 or 4 years, best case scenario.

 

[Colif]

I have a worries about ARM stuff. Part of the beauty of having a PC is that with pretty minimal effort its mostly possible to pick up almost any game from the last 40 years and get it working. Looking at how flaky the compatibility with current games is I dont hold out much hope for a lot of older games working. I guess if they kind of work then it may just be possible to brute force them playable.

SteamOS on ARM may answer those questions I guess.

Also if theyre going to make them all closed boxes or SOCs that arent upgradable by the home user as it seems that will kill custom building, which is something they probably would be happy to do from a business perspective. I won't look forward to buying a new whole box, or soldered CPU/MOBO/RAM combo every 3 or 4 years, best case scenario.

They all want to be Apple and make us pay them for repairs. Closed systems...
If IBM had been smarter, PC would have been a closed system all along.
Many want to close that loophole.
Desktop is one of the few places left... though I guess you can build a server if you want/have funds

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

SteamOS on ARM may answer those questions I guess.

Didnt know they were testing that, dont know how much help that would be for retro stuff but not something I know a lot about.

They all want to be Apple and make us pay them for repairs. Closed systems...
If IBM had been smarter, PC would have been a closed system all along.
Many want to close that loophole.
Desktop is one of the few places left... though I guess you can build a server if you want/have funds

I wonder if IBM had been more closed about it if x86 would have even become as widespread as it has, but impossible to know.

 

[BeardyHat]

Didnt know they were testing that, dont know how much help that would be for retro stuff but not something I know a lot about.

I wonder if IBM had been more closed about it if x86 would have even become as widespread as it has, but impossible to know.

Linux on ARM was my thought as well, primarily because of Proton and Wine. With those compatibility layers, it's pretty trivial to get stuff running on Linux. So I wouldn't be shocked if that is the answer to our prayers.

On top of that, we're seeing a load of source ports these days, which is kind of awesome. Yesterday I had a thought, "Wonder if anyone has made a source reimplementation of Dungeon Keeper? And it turns out...

 

[Colif]

Valve adds experimental Arm support to SteamOS in latest Runtime update — Deckard may launch soon

A recent SteamOS code commit indicates that Valve is in fact testing Arm support for SteamOS. The implications of this are far-reaching and suggest that users of Windows on Arm laptops may soon be able to game on Linux, but it might also mean the launch of the Valve Deckard VR headset is drawing...

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[Pifanjr]

I just noticed that Zed is either living in a wildly different timezone, is a time traveller or has made a typo in the title of this thread (2026 instead of 2025).

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

Linux on ARM was my thought as well, primarily because of Proton and Wine. With those compatibility layers, it's pretty trivial to get stuff running on Linux. So I wouldn't be shocked if that is the answer to our prayers.

I know it bothers me more than some, but that still leaves us with potentially closed boxes to play them on.

 

[Colif]

I just noticed that Zed is either living in a wildly different timezone, is a time traveller or has made a typo in the title of this thread (2026 instead of 2025).

Now historians will be unsure which of the June 2026 threads are really from that year.

Surprised I didn't notice.

Maybe he trying to conserve server space and this thread will remain current until June 30 2026.

 

[BeardyHat]

I know it bothers me more than some, but that still leaves us with potentially closed boxes to play them on.

Yeah, it matters some to me, but given my proclivity towards handhelds and laptops, is definitely lower on my priority list.

As long as hardware remains usable for a number of years, I won't really complain all that much.

All that said, there is a reason I love the Deck, as well as buy ThinkPads, as it's all user serviceable.

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

Yeah, it matters some to me, but given my proclivity towards handhelds and laptops, is definitely lower on my priority list.

As long as hardware remains usable for a number of years, I won't really complain all that much.

All that said, there is a reason I love the Deck, as well as buy ThinkPads, as it's all user serviceable.

User serviceable is one thing, modularity and easy customization is what Im interested in more.

Its not gone yet, and I'm imagining the worst timeline of sealed and soldered boxes. Have to wait and see.

 

[Zed Clampet]

I just noticed that Zed is either living in a wildly different timezone, is a time traveller or has made a typo in the title of this thread (2026 instead of 2025).

As I said recently, I've become unstuck from time.

****

Microsoft better be concerned. If SteamOS has a better compatibility layer for ARM, then it will be an actual competitor to Windows.

 

[Zloth]

As I said recently, I've become unstuck from time.

And so it goes.... over to 2025.

 

[Zed Clampet]

And so it goes.... over to 2025.

Ah, a KV knower. Excellent.