Is it safe now?

[Squal121582]

Hi everyone, I am back to pc gaming after quite some time. I have win 10 on one PC and win11 on the other pc.
I have heard of all the recent problems with windows updates ( ssd getting killed, some sort of restarting issues) and I am really confused and out of my league here. Is it safe to just turn on my pc and play some games?
What should I do here?
Thx in advance guys.

 

[neogunhero]

Hey there, welcome to the forums!

This past Friday I performed a full upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11. I did a clean install, not keeping any data from Win10 and allowed the installation program to wipe my drive clean.

I had no issues at all with getting the installation complete. However, as soon as I got to desktop, one of the first things I did was roll back the update, and once that was complete I disabled auto-updates for 5 weeks just in case.

The main issue is when reading/writing ~50GB or more, typically downloading and installing large files. Gaming shouldn't be affected, just don't download any large games for now. I would still recommend to roll back the update. The update causing the issue is KB5063878 so just uninstall that one for now. It only takes a few minutes and a restart to roll back.

So far, no official fix or new update has been sent out. I think this is the best course for now.

 

[Colif]

I have win 10 on one PC and win11 on the other pc.

what ssd do you have?
Here are some of the drives tested so far:

It doesn't touch every ssd, it appears more likely to affect DRAM less SSD more than those with their own cache
Also more likely to occur on drives over 2tb in size.

There isn't anything new on it, as it takes time to work out.
SSD controller makers are working with Microsoft to resolve it

Phison Responds to Falsified SSD Controller Issue Document Circulating Online

Earlier this week, we reported on a Windows 11 software update crashing SSDs, including those powered by Phison controllers. Certain bad actors capitalizing on these reports, are circulating false documents to spread FUD, the company said in a statement released to the press on Wednesday...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Zed Clampet]

Hi everyone, I am back to pc gaming after quite some time. I have win 10 on one PC and win11 on the other pc.
I have heard of all the recent problems with windows updates ( ssd getting killed, some sort of restarting issues) and I am really confused and out of my league here. Is it safe to just turn on my pc and play some games?
What should I do here?
Thx in advance guys.

As I strongly expected, there was (almost) nothing to this claim:

After 4,500 hours of testing, SSD controller specialist Phison rules out allegations that a Windows 11 update is bricking drives

Correlation without causation, after all?

www.pcgamer.com

As far as drives disappearing after Windows updates, I've been posting about this problem for months. Windows updates can (rarely) lose track of your SSDs. It's easy to fix so long as it isn't your system drive. You just run a "device troubleshooter"

 

[Colif]

Microsoft are saying similar

Microsoft says recent Windows update didn't kill your SSD

Microsoft has found no link between the August 2025 KB5063878 security update and customer reports of failure and data corruption issues affecting solid-state drives (SSDs) and hard disk drives (HDDs).

www.bleepingcomputer.com

Which is funny as people still reporting it as happening...

Seems it happened to him.

he could just have a bad drive... drives that disappear until you restart PC aren't drives I would trust for anything. His drive behaves more like a bad drive than a windows problem.

Need a larger sample size than just one drive.

 

[Zed Clampet]

Microsoft are saying similar

Microsoft says recent Windows update didn't kill your SSD

Microsoft has found no link between the August 2025 KB5063878 security update and customer reports of failure and data corruption issues affecting solid-state drives (SSDs) and hard disk drives (HDDs).

www.bleepingcomputer.com

Which is funny as people still reporting it as happening...

Seems it happened to him.

he could just have a bad drive... drives that disappear until you restart PC aren't drives I would trust for anything. His drive behaves more like a bad drive than a windows problem.

Need a larger sample size than just one drive.

Happened twice to my secondary ssd on my other laptop. This was months ago. Then I corrected a Windows corruption problem, and it hasn't happened since. The two updates that made my drive disappear both failed, which is a bit different.

 

[Colif]

Never had any problems with ssd disappearing in windows before. Not sure if that has anything to do with my choice of SSD makers... only used Samsung so far. Its likely my 1st ssd I got from them doesn't boot any more but that's more from not being plugged in for 6 years - all ssd lose info if not plugged in over time. I don't really care about a 250gb ssd.

Its not a problem I saw a lot answering win 10 questions, i didn't take as much notice of 11 as I was getting bored of windows by then...

Windows generally can't break hardware. It can't change any settings in BIOS that are still in effect after a restart, so its odd the drives need a power cycle to reappear. It can change settings while windows is running, but thats all reset on a restart. It also generally needs an application to make the changes once windows is running. Think Gigabyte Command Centre, any fan settings it changes only apply to that session.

 

[Zed Clampet]

Never had any problems with ssd disappearing in windows before. Not sure if that has anything to do with my choice of SSD makers... only used Samsung so far. Its likely my 1st ssd I got from them doesn't boot any more but that's more from not being plugged in for 6 years - all ssd lose info if not plugged in over time. I don't really care about a 250gb ssd.

Its not a problem I saw a lot answering win 10 questions, i didn't take as much notice of 11 as I was getting bored of windows by then...

Windows generally can't break hardware. It can't change any settings in BIOS that are still in effect after a restart, so its odd the drives need a power cycle to reappear. It can change settings while windows is running, but thats all reset on a restart. It also generally needs an application to make the changes once windows is running. Think Gigabyte Command Centre, any fan settings it changes only apply to that session.

If you look at it that way, I guess Fan Control is per session, too, if you don't set it as a Start-up app. Since your Bios resets everything on reboot, I guess all these apps would be considered per session.

The solution for fans would be to change them in the Bios, or buy a pre-built where it should already have been set to something reasonable. "should" is the big question.

Maybe we should have a "Show us your fan curve" thread

 

[Colif]

buy a pre-built where it should already have been set to something reasonable. "should" is the big question.

That is a really big should there

Look at Corsair Pre builts, most of the time they have the fans all running at 100% even though they should know better, they make the fans after all. They get their AIO plans wrong or have locked fan curves as well.

OEM like HP might be better as they do make them in bulk and probably have the process better worked out.

I should copy my fan curves from GCC into BIOS - maybe one day. I don't spend much time with PC on and windows off. Probably help to adjust the chassis fans more than the CPU one.

Maybe we should have a "Show us your fan curve" thread

I guess the fan curve thread could show people who aren't sure how to make one, what a reasonable Idea is... Don't set it in a way the CPU fan can turn off at any stage. Don't set a zero fan mode for your CPU cooler

even though its greyed out, it lets you turn on Zero Fan for my CPU but I think I pass.