Headphone random conversation

[Colif]

They have hopefully fixed the screw problem by now.

Imagine losing one of these if you attached it wirelessly

I looked at price and went nope. That and you never actually learn how good the headphones are watching his reviews, just how they make him feel.

 

[ZedClampet]

They have hopefully fixed the screw problem by now.

Imagine losing one of these if you attached it wirelessly

I looked at price and went nope. That and you never actually learn how good the headphones are watching his reviews, just how they make him feel.

For that price I can just get a band to come set up in my living room. Then an audiophile would show up and comment that it almost sounds like a live performance, but the drums aren't punchy enough.

 

[Colif]

NO, Audiophiles would complain the room has bad acoustics and expect you to stick foam on the walls to deaden the sound.

One reason Headphones are easier for me is I don't have to worry about furniture getting in the way of sound. Admittedly I have never bothered with my 5.1 set but I didn't even know about the sound dampening stuff until I started looking at better speakers for the possible future I might have if I don't want to listen to headphones all the time.

 

[Frindis]

I don't care if the world best sound experts would have called them godly, I'd call them a scam. If it is not a scam, then it would just have some gibberish expensive module in it, like gold flakes on a burger. There is a limit to how good sound can really get for human ears and when it becomes just dumb. Most people can't even distinguish between high-quality audio setups and those that are more modest if they didn't know anything about the equipment beforehand.

 

[Colif]

They would only be 4th on this list

18 Most Expensive IEMs & Earbuds in the World

Can you imagine dropping 10 grand on a pair of IEMs?

www.headphonesty.com

much of it is to do with complexity
The ones I listed have 11 drivers per ear
One Dynamic driver - probably for bass
Two types of planar driver - probably for treble
8 Balanced Armatures - fill in the areas not covered by other two, mostly mids and treble I expect.

Fitting all that into a small space, and making it sound good, comes with the ability to charge prices people will pay.
Maybe not me. But others.

There are headphones that cost more again but apart from ones covered in gemstones, the most expensive you can buy now is

but the cost of those includes the amp that is required to run them. Approx 60k or more.

Those are electrostatic headphones compared to the normal headphones people are used to. They need special amps - energizers - just to run them. Video explains differences between normal, planar & electrostatic:

most of the expensive IEM seem to have electrostatics now. They are also becoming available in much cheaper ones (compared to the ones on list anyway).
Next IEM I want has 9 drivers in it, but its no where near their prices.

https://www.dunu-topsound.com/product-page/dk3001bd

 

[ZedClampet]

They would only be 4th on this list

18 Most Expensive IEMs & Earbuds in the World

Can you imagine dropping 10 grand on a pair of IEMs?

www.headphonesty.com

much of it is to do with complexity
The ones I listed have 11 drivers per ear
One Dynamic driver - probably for bass
Two types of planar driver - probably for treble
8 Balanced Armatures - fill in the areas not covered by other two, mostly mids and treble I expect.

Fitting all that into a small space, and making it sound good, comes with the ability to charge prices people will pay.
Maybe not me. But others.

There are headphones that cost more again but apart from ones covered in gemstones, the most expensive you can buy now is

but the cost of those includes the amp that is required to run them. Approx 60k or more.

Those are electrostatic headphones compared to the normal headphones people are used to. They need special amps - energizers - just to run them. Video explains differences between normal, planar & electrostatic:

most of the expensive IEM seem to have electrostatics now. They are also becoming available in much cheaper ones (compared to the ones on list anyway).
Next IEM I want has 9 drivers in it, but its no where near their prices.

https://www.dunu-topsound.com/product-page/dk3001bd

So if someone handed you some $60,000 headphones and said, "Happy Birthday!" would you keep them or sell them.

I'm torn. At a minimum, I would open them and listen to them, which would knock a chunk off the price.

 

[Frindis]

So if someone handed you some $60,000 headphones and said, "Happy Birthday!" would you keep them or sell them.

I'd sell them, put the money in volatile stocks and then lose everything within seconds.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4ZeTdOjLUk

@Colif I have seen a video of someone (I believe you might have linked it some time ago) opening an expensive amplifier only to find that a lot of it was made in a cheap way. I believe this was from YouTuber Mend it Mark doing repairs on some high end sound equipment. Found it:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hVe_spuJQI

 

[Alm]

I would sell. My equipment is low/mid and so it’s like watching an 8k film on a CRT.

As for my headphones:
I have some Grado SR325x’s which give nice detail (compared to cheaper headphones I’ve tried). I also have some v-moda m100s (I think) which don’t have the same detail but have great bass. Nothing uber expensive but they do enough for me to really enjoy the music.

 

[Colif]

There is a lot of snake oil claims when it comes to audio, and exploiting peoples lack of knowledge when it comes to what is needed.
The Tom Evans amp was overpriced crap in a box designed to keep you out and make it look magic. On taking it apart Mark revealed it was full of cheap parts and not worth the asking price. All that amp does is power speakers, you can buy hardware for 10% of that cost that does a better job now, it just might not look as good.

I don't think Sennheiser need to stoop to that level as their main business is probably selling headphones already, not over priced hardware to people that don't know any better. The HE 1 is the pinnacle so I doubt they are scamming the people who buy them.

The Main unit of the HE 1 includes a DAC and and Amp and I have seen people use a mobile phone as a source for music to it, so I wouldn't sell it as I know I would never have anything better.

 

[Alm]

I hadn’t been paying attention, sorry. I see it comes with an amp now. Certainly would be tempted to keep it, but as I’m looking to move, I’d be more tempted to sell.