does anything game related wind you up.

[mjs warlord]

I will start the ball rolling by saying modders wind me up and the reason i say that is because some modders are 2 faced and pretend they dont do it.

Lets take the current game i am hammering as an example as you know its SATISFACTORY I look on you tube for ideas on what to try next because i have run out of things to do and see megga builds , i look closely at some of the items used and know they are from a mod called 100+ milestones , i also see huge inventories and know how they do that .... but heres the rub ... some video posters claim their build is 100% vanilla pffffft !

The reason i know these things is because in my first playthrough i used a trainer that gave me a huge inventory but it crashes the game because the engine could not handle the numbers.
I also used the 100+ milestone in my first playthrough , it was my first ever mod use in 20 years and when the satisfactory game got update 7 it trashed almost all my modding and made the game unusable and no i had no idea it would happen.

Which brings me onto my next modding rant ....on steams discussions page i asked for advice on how to use the mod safely i was basically told by a bunch of players to **** off this discussions page is for vanilla only ... ok fair enough but what made me angry was that over a period of so many days i saw the players who told me to off openly talking about mods ???

I also got a similar response on satisfactory q and a without the abuse.

 

[Alm]

Toxic player bases are annoying, people who spam in chat and over the mic, cheaters, loot boxes, subscriptions, over priced dlc, over priced games etc etc.

The first incarnation of PCGF I joined was a little toxic, it's weird how anonymity turns people into trolls.

 

[Pifanjr]

I don't get wound up very easily, but I do get frustrated sometimes, mostly when a game makes me waste my time for no good reason. A game randomly crashing is already pretty irritating, but losing a bunch of progress because of bad design is so much worse. For example, when I died in Disco Elysium multiple times because I didn't know how to heal myself, because it was never explained. Or when a random check resulted in a sudden game over without warning.
And in Subnautica I somehow blew all of my containers out of my Cyclops by shooting a repulsion cannon near it, forcing me to move everything back into the ship. Or just the fact that the game only gives you 5 spots on its hotbar, so you have to keep switching tools through the inventory or spend a bunch of time finding and installing a (slightly glitchy) mod that expands the hotbar.

Toxic player bases are annoying, people who spam in chat and over the mic, cheaters, loot boxes, subscriptions, over priced dlc, over priced games etc etc.

The first incarnation of PCGF I joined was a little toxic, it's weird how anonymity turns people into trolls.

I don't think anonymity turns people into trolls, there's just a lot of toxic people out there. Anonymity just allows them to get away with being toxic more easily.

 

[Brian Boru]

Good IPs stuck in Limbo. Holders aren't doing anything with them, but won't release them to people who want to develop them—eg remake, remaster.

All Your Base Are Belong To Who?

No One Lives Forever is a prime example—no one is even sure who owns which parts of it anymore.

How GOG rescued 13 Forgotten Realms games from licensing hell—old PCG article

A bit of legal

I don't think anonymity turns people into trolls

It does with some. I've read of people confronting online bullies, and the bully being surprised and regretful for causing grief. Maybe not trolls as such, but less aware that there are actual people behind the accounts they're abusing.

That'll be one great use of AI—set up accounts for the trolls and abusers to let loose on, without any humans getting hurt in the process.

 

[McStabStab]

When the first game in a series is so damn good that you can't wait for the sequel, and then the devs / publishers BLOW IT.

Cities: Skylines 2, Kerbal Space Program 2, Resident Evil 3... the list goes on.

 

[ZedClampet]

Toxic developers/publishers are winding me up, most notably EA and Paradox. As far as Paradox goes, Europa Universalis IV is in a dreadful state unless you buy over $500 worth of DLC or subscribe for $10/month to get access to the DLC. There are DLC that obviously should have been free. There are at least 2 DLC that are nothing but QoL improvements ($15 each). Parts of some DLC don't even work unless you buy other DLC, and even the main game has features grayed out unless you have certain DLC. It's shameful.

 

[mjs warlord]

Good IPs stuck in Limbo. Holders aren't doing anything with them, but won't release them to people who want to develop them—eg remake, remaster.

All Your Base Are Belong To Who?

No One Lives Forever is a prime example—no one is even sure who owns which parts of it anymore.

How GOG rescued 13 Forgotten Realms games from licensing hell—old PCG article

A bit of legal



It does with some. I've read of people confronting online bullies, and the bully being surprised and regretful for causing grief. Maybe not trolls as such, but less aware that there are actual people behind the accounts they're abusing.

That'll be one great use of AI—set up accounts for the trolls and abusers to let loose on, without any humans getting hurt in the process.

I agree with you brian cos trolls are otherwise known as keyboard heros

 

[Colif]

Good IPs stuck in Limbo. Holders aren't doing anything with them, but won't release them to people who want to develop them—eg remake, remaster.

Good games bought by other devs and released as skinsuits... to get the people who bought previous to buy without looking at reviews

ARPG series not being able to get past number 3 in series without messing up or being sold to another company that wears its name as a skinsuit.

Toxic player bases are annoying, people who spam in chat and over the mic, cheaters, loot boxes, subscriptions, over priced dlc, over priced games etc etc.

half of those are why I play single player games almost exclusively. Makes game so much more enjoyable, no need for ignore or to wear a headset.

Alas I haven't found an answer to second part of sentence apart from just not buying any games, and not playing an MMO in over 10 years.

How about this one: It took us so long to get good graphics that now we do there aren't many good games to play. And they take 5 years to be made. So dev hell until the engine is up to date enough to release on current hardware.
Star Citizen? When is it out? Or is it just a retirement package for the devs?

 

[Alm]

I think Roberts is just going to make the space game he wants to make and sod everyone else.

The trouble with games these days is the cost to make and the consumer base being in a cost of living crisis.

 

[mjs warlord]

I think Roberts is just going to make the space game he wants to make and sod everyone else.

The trouble with games these days is the cost to make and the consumer base being in a cost of living crisis.

Games to take a long time to make and cost a lot and yes we are in a cost of living crisis BUT once the game is finished it is sold to the whole world and not just on the high street where you live.

Today their was a peak of 32 million world wide on steam and an average of 26 million through out the day and of course their are other games clients.

How can a company justify releasing a game at £40+ and a deluxe version of the same game for £60 on the same day.

 

[Alm]

https://imgur.com/a/rTZFQFP

View: https://imgur.com/a/rTZFQFP

 

[mjs warlord]

i am surprised at those figures i never realised it cost that much .

In pc gamer magazine a few years ago i remember they interviewed the makers of so called free to play games and most of them said they only needed about 3% of players to make micro payments to make a profit out of the game

Their is of course a big difference in the quality of a AAA game and say Dragonheir that is geared up to take micro payments

 

[Brian Boru]

i never realised it cost that much

And that's just the 'basic' level. The big-hype AAA titles can be 5x-10x those numbers.

Major Publishers Report AAA Franchises Can Cost Over a Billion to Make - IGN

A report released alongside the CMA's decision to block the Microsoft Activision Blizzard acquisition reveals the demanding costs behind modern AAA game development, which can surpass $1 billion over a franchise.

www.ign.com

 

[Pifanjr]

I think Roberts is just going to make the space game he wants to make and sod everyone else.

It seems like it worked pretty well for Todd Howard with Starfield.

How can a company justify releasing a game at £40+ and a deluxe version of the same game for £60 on the same day.

Plus an extra deluxe Early Play version for $100 3-5 days before.

 

[Colif]

I think Roberts is just going to make the space game he wants to make and sod everyone else.

He already has

People just want him to make a bigger version.

 

[ZedClampet]

And that's just the 'basic' level. The big-hype AAA titles can be 5x-10x those numbers.

Major Publishers Report AAA Franchises Can Cost Over a Billion to Make - IGN

A report released alongside the CMA's decision to block the Microsoft Activision Blizzard acquisition reveals the demanding costs behind modern AAA game development, which can surpass $1 billion over a franchise.

www.ign.com

Why anyone would spend half-a-billion dollars marketing Call of Duty is beyond me. It gets non-stop free publicity, free word-of-mouth, etc. Plus, assuming most of this marketing is online, you are probably going to be marketing to only the people who don't have any sort of adblock on their phones/computers. Are the people who don't use adblock who you really want to advertise your game to?

 

[OsaX Nymloth]

Good IPs stuck in Limbo. Holders aren't doing anything with them, but won't release them to people who want to develop them—eg remake, remaster.

Hell yeah that's bad and sad, but you know what's worse? Certain IPs getting to someone who then butchers them so much it barely resembles the original.
Yes, I am looking at you Todd, you liar!


Corpos screwing devs, men in suits without any idea of gaming making baffling decisions, CEOs getting paid millions while simultaneously shutting down studios.... Hell, there's a lot of negativity in the industry.

 

[Zloth]

Yes, I am looking at you Todd, you liar!

You mean Fallout!?

 

[Brian Boru]

You mean Fallout!?

Nah, unlikely. Probably Electronic Super Joy—what a deceitful name from a dev working thru depression

 

[DXCHASE]

So this winds me up about gamers, and i guess this might fall under "toxic community" but in this case its the gaming community as a whole:

When people use the term "woke" to demoralize and degrade games, even if they havent seen any concrete game footage or know anything about the companies ideas around said game. Its usually based off 1 picture or 1 idea about the game. Im not going to say exactly what is said but just take a look at the comments on the recent news about Ubisofts new Assassin Creed game.

I couldve posted any number of articles there but im pretty sure yall know what i mean.

 

[Frindis]

In Dayz Virgid mod they have a lobby where you can voice chat with other people before you start the battle royale match. For most people, this is the opportunity to play music, throw in some movie quotes, and do light roleplay like stacking people on top of each other or doing the snail walk in a circle. I like to throw in a banter at times and it is all in good fun. People for the most part are mature enough to know when to shut up. But then you have these dimwits that have to say the N-word or anything they know is negative to rile up the crowd, which unfortunately they do at times succeed with. It irritates me when some people can't respect the lobby rules (and the unwritten rules for that sake) and don't see how unique it is to have a lobby where you can joke around in a friendly manner.

 

[red_5ive]

Game launchers. Steam does it better than anyone, and this coming from someone (yours truly) who used to say Steam was the devil and stuck with hard media vs. downloads for the longest time. Now I can't imagine PC gaming without Steam. I cringe every time I buy or launch a game that isn't/wasn't available on Steam.

 

[Zloth]

Oh! @red_5ive reminded me of one I've complained about before: "Press any key" when I start a game.

Why? Give me the fool menu already. Better yet just click the "Continue" option for me - I'll go back to the main menu myself if I need to mess with settings or load a different save.

Also, don't tell me not to switch off my PC while the save is happening. This isn't a console.

 

[Brian Boru]

I cringe every time I buy or launch a game that isn't/wasn't available on Steam

Are you familiar with Playnite or Galaxy or desktop icons in Fences, which we've discussed here before as possible uncringers?

just click the "Continue" option for me

Amen bro, I have whined about this right along with you!

 

[red_5ive]

Are you familiar with Playnite or Galaxy or desktop icons in Fences, which we've discussed here before as possible uncringers?

Never heard of them... now off I go to search the threads...