Question Z490 prime a set up

[JCgames]

I have an asus z490 prime A MB andi'm adding a new drive or rather upgrading one., to a larger drive, though the same speed as the secondary drive that is already in the system. So basically, both are 980 evo plus drives, 2 tb and 4tb.

But after digging into the manual a bit i noticed something about the drives sharing bandwith and slot speed.

Can anyone check out the manual to see if im getting this right.

It appears that m2.2slot 1, is a normal slot and shares bandwith with sata 2

M2.2, slot 2, has a 4x option, but disables sata 4,5

I have 3 sata things to connect, my dvr and 2 hdds, and 2 ssds, a boot/main and a secondary edit/vid storage drive

Am i correct in thinking that slot m2.2 slot 1, is going to run slower than slot 2 with sata 4,5 disabled and 4x enabled? Or does slot one always run at 4x if capible and the option to turn on is always there or automatic and slot 2 is an option if you disable?

Also, seeing these sata slots seamed grouped, would it be better to make sata slot 1 a main hdd.

Then use sata 3 for my second hdd, and sata 4 for my dvr

I know im not configed in this way now, but im going to do some rebuilding/configing as soon as i find where i put my bloody win 10 disk! 2 New fans, swap in an rgb to rear and add a rgb pusher/puller fan to my cooler as well, so a total of 2 intake 2 out and another pushing to feed out/in

So im also trying to decide the best set up for splitting the fan headers. I was thinking the two in rear back and top share a header, and two on cooler share. Then inside top fan on the cooler it own header for the best fan management i was thinking that would work well cinsidering fan header location. The inside cooler fan and the rear/back are rgb, but thats a separate hookup so that shouldnt effect the spin rate right? (I never got the rgb working right and the fans couldnt be seen under the front case cover anyway.) But now im trying to get it right.

While My system runs pretty cool as is,but thats running stock speeds and a low ghz on the gpu, but im gonna do a bit of oc and im thinking of revearsing the fans a bit.,

Right now its rear/top intake, front rad pulls through and out the front. In the winter its a nice little heater the comp doesnt run hot, vid card maybe 60 at most, low 50s normally and cpu in the 45 range but thats with no oc or tweaks on anything. Oc's the gpu does rise a good amount.

So it got me thinking about going radiator intake, a inside fan on top of the cooler pulling in but also pushing air past the vid card, but its going to be warmer air. Then use rear/top as exits.

I realize the only way to see which works better is to try it, but in theary, warm air flowing over gpu or stagnate air with a ps under it and little flow.

Which would you lean towards?

 

[Colif]

Did you look in the manual?
Page xi shows this:

• The PCIe X1_2 slot shares bandwidth with M.2 slot (Key E) when a PCIe interface WiFi card is installed.
• M.2_1 shares bandwidth with SATA_2.
• M.2_2 slot shares bandwidth with SATA_56. When M.2_2 slot is operating in PCIe x4 mode, SATA_56 will be disabled

Also, seeing these sata slots seamed grouped, would it be better to make sata slot 1 a main hdd.

Then use sata 3 for my second hdd, and sata 4 for my dvr

that would work. Windows doesn't really care which drive is main drive though. Although since its sata you won't have to fight windows to put it first in disk management

it puts sata at top anyway. I wonder when windows will stop that.

M2.2, slot 2, has a 4x option, but disables sata 4,5

where did you get that from? it contradicts the manual

* M.2_1 shares bandwidth with SATA_2.
** M.2_2 slot shares bandwidth with SATA_56.
When M.2_2 slot is operating in PCIe x4 mode, SATA_56 will be disabled.

above is from your manual - link Page vii (bottom)

When M.2_1 is operating in SATA mode, SATA6G_2 will be disabled.
• M.2_2 shares bandwidth with SATA6G_56. When M.2_2 is in x4 speed and populated, SATA6G_56 will be disabled.
When M.2_2 is in x2 speed and populated, SATA6G_56 will be in x2 speed.

Pages 1-11 & 12 essentially say the same things about the slots.

I am unsure what would happen if you attach a sata drive to Sata 2 if you are using a PCIe nvme in slot 1 as it isn't covered by instructions. It should work in theory.
the sharing only seems to occur on 2_2 in pcie mode

sharing on my board is more annoying, my nvme share access with GPU slots. No biggy, I don't need any more drives for a while.

as soon as i find where i put my bloody win 10 disk!

just need a blank 16gb USB - https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/software-download/windows10

Right now its rear/top intake, front rad pulls through and out the front

that is backwards. If it works for you, okay, but you might find it better with rad as intake on front and only one exhaust fan on roof. The heat from CPU really isn't that hot and doesn't bother GPU at all.

So it got me thinking about going radiator intake, a inside fan on top of the cooler pulling in but also pushing air past the vid card, but its going to be warmer air. Then use rear/top as exits.

I wish I had read this before writing last sentence. My last PC had this layout for 4 years

front intake on AIO works fine. Having top exhaust fans can have negative effects on intake (suck all the cool air out roof)

My case doesn't need top exhausts, it has two fans in its base forcing air up through case

True, it does have to go through my GPU and everything else but its better than exhausts.
I don't have any exhausts as there is a fan on the rear of my air cooler and it conflicts with any fans behind it.
5 intakes is enough air now. My temps don't seem to notice.

i don't miss fan splitters, my last motherboard only had 2 fan headers for system fans and two for the CPU/pump headers... current one has 6 system fan headers + 1 CPU header & for some reason 2 pump headers. I am using a fan hub so really only using the CPU header and three of the system fan headers to run 5 chassis fans & my air cooler. I could mount more fans but I am not convinced I need them.

 

[JCgames]

I meant 56 not 45 that was a typo

My case does not have place for lower bottom fans,, top back on rear and top rear. the front slot is covered by bays, look up fractal focus G for lay out and youll se what i mean.

The bottom 2 front with venting., the place where a 3rd would go are 5.25 bays. This is not a fancy new case its a fancy old case made before water cooling was a thing.

There is not much room in the front because there is a3.5 block holder on the bottom of the case, next to the psu, both are in use.

Its not like the system is running hot, but clocking the gpu does get really warm. What i should do is grab a thermometer and take some internal readings on top of the gpu/cpu and see if i can get flow better. And maybe i should make a custom mounting block to place a 3.5 intake on the rear bellow the gpu.

Like i said, this case is from when you would run 2 in front, two out in back/top, but that was clean air over the gpu/cpu in and hot out, Not in through a radiator raising the temp to 100-110+ running super warm air over the gpu.


Still haven't found my disk but i did look up how to get my key in cmd and read about some download usb window install, so i may do that. I like my dvd though its just easy and had my key on it. I was not sure if the digital install made you make a microsoft account.


After this project is done im gonna do a win 2k build on an old rig. i was gonna use some older stuff and do an abit/3200 anthlon but i figured out my p5n-d 8600 duo is win 2k compatible as is my ati 9800, i even have an a fresh 80gb hdd for it thats been sitti g in a box for 12 years. Been wanting to build a legacy comp for a while. That should end up being a really solid win 2k rig cant wait!

 

[Colif]

Like i said, this case is from when you would run 2 in front, two out in back/top, but that was clean air over the gpu/cpu in and hot out, Not in through a radiator raising the temp to 100-110+ running super warm air over the gpu.

the air coming out of the CPU really isn't going to be that hot, and if it is, you have a problem with AIO as the radiator should be way cooler than that even under load. The liquid temps should be anyway
Or that is a result of the Radiator taking in all the hot air from GPU since you had it mounted as exhaust above GPU

GPU temps really don't care where the Radiator is, but the CPU does:

you don't need your windows key. Is your logon linked to a Microsoft account? If so, you don't need to know it at all to install windows.

You are better off linking it to a Microsoft account as it makes moving it to newer hardware easier.

When you get to the part in the install process where it asks for licence, you select "I don't have one" and windows will continue install process and once it hits desktop, will contact activation servers and activate your PC if it finds it.

That has been how it works since Win 10 was released. Most people updating from 7 didn't have a key so the installer is now set up so that you don't need one. The servers activate you.

That might even work without a MSA, I can't remember.