Suggestions on build?

[ZedClampet]

Decided to build sometime in the next 60 days. PC will be used for gaming, running AI and game development. Will be using a small 1080p monitor. Intention is to upgrade the GPU when the new line comes out some time next year. In the meantime, I think the 16 GB 4060 ti will do the trick well enough, but if you want to recommend another GPU in that general price range that would be great.

CPU

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor

$358.94

$358.94

Buy

CPU Cooler

Lian Li GALAHAD AIO 360 RGB 69.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

$214.95

$214.95

Buy

Motherboard

MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard

$211.99

$211.99

Buy

Memory

G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory

$114.99

FREE

$114.99

Buy

Storage

ADATA XPG GAMMIX S70 Blade 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

$109.99

$109.99

Buy

Video Card

MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card

$487.00

$487.00

Buy

Case

Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case

$99.99

FREE

$99.99

Buy

Power Supply

MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

$109.99

FREE

$109.99

Buy

Total:

$1707.84

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

Honestly looks pretty good. Couple of things I suggest_

1.Get some lower latency RAM for Ryzen, C30-32 and make sure its optimized for AMD/EXPO. It'll help a bit and wont cost you any more.
2. The SSD is a great deal and has DRAM cache which is very good for a boot drive, but there was some talk of it overheating during review which would give me pause. Maybe nothing but just a thought, thats a great price.
3. You dont need a 360 AIO for a 7800X3D, it uses less that 100W under most loads.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($358.94 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($97.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($211.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card ($563.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1687.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-12-02 11:59 EST-0500

Gets you a 4070 for the same price with some other improvements IMO.

The Arctic AIO's have slightly thicker radiators and a small VRM cooler on the CPU block which other manufacturers dont have. They tend to outperform other AIO's of similar size in tests because of the thicker rad. Might have to check dimension in some smaller cases though. Theres an RGB model for about $15 more.

Case is a good one, but a placeholder anyway. Always get something with mesh over a solid front for better cooling anyway, the Lian Li 216 is alright as well.

 

[ZedClampet]

Honestly looks pretty good. Couple of things I suggest_

1.Get some lower latency RAM for Ryzen, C30-32 and make sure its optimized for AMD/EXPO. It'll help a bit and wont cost you any more.
2. The SSD is a great deal and has DRAM cache which is very good for a boot drive, but there was some talk of it overheating during review which would give me pause. Maybe nothing but just a thought, thats a great price.
3. You dont need a 360 AIO for a 7800X3D, it uses less that 100W under most loads.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($358.94 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($97.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($211.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card ($563.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1687.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-12-02 11:59 EST-0500

Gets you a 4070 for the same price with some other improvements IMO.

The Arctic AIO's have slightly thicker radiators and a small VRM cooler on the CPU block which other manufacturers dont have. They tend to outperform other AIO's of similar size in tests because of the thicker rad. Might have to check dimension in some smaller cases though. Theres an RGB model for about $15 more.

Case is a good one, but a placeholder anyway. Always get something with mesh over a solid front for better cooling anyway, the Lian Li 216 is alright as well.

Thanks!

 

[D10S]

3. You dont need a 360 AIO for a 7800X3D, it uses less that 100W under most loads.

The real problem is heat buildup under ihs due to v-cache stacking, not power output. Seen them hitting 90 degrees in cyberpunk with 360mm aios.

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

The real problem is heat buildup under ihs due to v-cache stacking, not power output. Seen them hitting 90 degrees in cyberpunk with 360mm aios.

As far as I'm aware, the capacity of the radiator wont make any difference to that, thats a heat transfer problem at the IHS.

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($358.94 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($212.29 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.50 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *MSI VENTUS 2X OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card ($559.99 @ Newegg)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1618.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-12-02 16:08 EST-0500

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https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-4070-VENTUS-2X-12G-OC

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The MPG A850G PCIE5 power supply is designed to be ready for GeForce RTX^TM 4070 Ti and other graphics cards thanks to its ATX 3.0 and PCIe 5.0 support.

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[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($358.94 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool LS720 SE 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($212.29 @ Amazon)
Memory: *G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($117.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.50 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *MSI VENTUS 2X OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card ($559.99 @ Newegg)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1693.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-12-02 16:18 EST-0500

 

[Inspireless Llama]

Intention is to upgrade the GPU when the new line comes out some time next year. In the meantime, I think the 16 GB 4060 ti will do the trick well enough, but if you want to recommend another GPU in that general price range that would be great.

Based on the suggestions here: If you're actually getting a 4070 wouldn't it be better to probably skip the next gen of videocards? It seems like you'd spending a fair amount of money now on a GPU that you want to replace next year (which starts in less than 30 days).

I'm not sure what to advice though, because you could go for a 4070 and skip next gen, or maybe go for like a second handed 2060 / 3060 and then get a new GPU? I'm not sure how well you could develop games on that.

 

[ZedClampet]

Based on the suggestions here: If you're actually getting a 4070 wouldn't it be better to probably skip the next gen of videocards? It seems like you'd spending a fair amount of money now on a GPU that you want to replace next year (which starts in less than 30 days).

I'm not sure what to advice though, because you could go for a 4070 and skip next gen, or maybe go for like a second handed 2060 / 3060 and then get a new GPU? I'm not sure how well you could develop games on that.

I said "next year" but what I meant was 2025. If they don't launch until Sept of 2025 (and who knows when they'll actually launch) that will be almost 2 years with this card.

After the unanimous suggestions to go with the 4070, I did some additional research and very much agree that this is the way to go. The 4060ti was a poor choice. I was just thinking that it would be fine until the new cards come out, but the 4070 is not that much more expensive and is quite a bit better for what I need it to do.

 

[Colif]

Get a Super card, don't get a base mode 40 series. Wait...

RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super Specs Leaked

Potential specifications for Ada Lovelace Super GPUs

www.tomshardware.com

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

Get a Super card, don't get a base mode 40 series. Wait...

RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Super Specs Leaked

Potential specifications for Ada Lovelace Super GPUs

www.tomshardware.com

That really good advise. I would have waited myself if I wouldnt have had a long quiet period over December and January where I have a lot of time to game.

 

[Colif]

It hurt to recommend Nvidia but he had already chosen. Best I can do is offer a better choice.

I would have waited myself if I wouldnt have had a long quiet period over December and January where I have a lot of time to game.

Hmmm, a year ago I wanted a 7800xt. If I had waited a year, I could have one now... oh well. Sometimes you just can't wait

 

[ZedClampet]

It hurt to recommend Nvidia but he had already chosen. Best I can do is offer a better choice.

I can't do AMD. I'm running AI more than I'm gaming these days, and Nvidia is just a lot better at it right now. I need those sweet CUDA cores.

As for the Super, it wouldn't surprise me if I didn't end up procrastinating until those are released. For some reason I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger.

 

[Colif]

i would wait if only as they do exist. I would probably kick self for jumping early,

I rushed my last build as it was 2020. Sort of hard to get some parts that year. It took this year to complete it... now there isn't a rush and parts aren't over priced. I would take time and make sure everything was right.

 

[Brian Boru]

now there isn't a rush and parts aren't over priced

I saw somewhere recently—a Paul's Hardware video maybe—that video card scalpers are back due to the increased demand for AI processing.

 

[Colif]

All GPU prices are dropping unless you want a 4090. Its going up, I smell scalpers

they might smell a profit in the new super cards too. I don't know.

 

[Brian Boru]

All GPU prices are dropping unless you want a 4090. Its going up, I smell scalpers

You are so right, yet again—does that ever get boring?

But I do have a glimmer of transient rectitude also, it was Paul's Hardware

 

[PamelaBryant]

The Ryzen 7 7800X3D is a powerful CPU, and the 32GB DDR5 RAM and 2TB NVMe SSD will handle multitasking and large projects efficiently. The RTX 4060 Ti is a good choice for now, and you can easily upgrade when new GPUs are available. The Lian Li GALAHAD AIO cooler and LANCOOL 216 case provide good cooling and aesthetics. Overall, it's a well-balanced build within your specified budget.

 

[ZedClampet]

The Ryzen 7 7800X3D is a powerful CPU, and the 32GB DDR5 RAM and 2TB NVMe SSD will handle multitasking and large projects efficiently. The RTX 4060 Ti is a good choice for now, and you can easily upgrade when new GPUs are available. The Lian Li GALAHAD AIO cooler and LANCOOL 216 case provide good cooling and aesthetics. Overall, it's a well-balanced build within your specified budget.

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[PamelaBryant]

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[D10S]

All GPU prices are dropping unless you want a 4090. Its going up, I smell scalpers

they might smell a profit in the new super cards too. I don't know.

waiting for people to start panic selling their 4080's and 4070Ti's that still smell of factory so I can snag one for cheap.

 

[Colif]

The people who have a 4080 now and sell it to get a better one are idiots.

The biggest difference between a 4080 & a 4080 Super will be its price. They just giving you a few more cores to play with... and will charge a fortune..

I had to laugh at the website he hates in the 1st 2 minutes, name seems familiar

 

[Why_Me]

The people who have a 4080 now and sell it to get a better one are idiots.

The biggest difference between a 4080 & a 4080 Super will be its price. They just giving you a few more cores to play with... and will charge a fortune..

I had to laugh at the website he hates in the 1st 2 minutes, name seems familiar

The 4080 16GB and 4070 Ti 12GB are being phased out.