Question Starting time issue

[PatrickGr]

Hey guys, i have bought a new pc: ryzen 7 7700x, rx 6800, ssd 2tb m.2, 32gb ram 5600, MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WIFI and I am happy with it. My problem is just need 1 minute to start it. Maybe enable memory context restore? I don't know.. do you have hints? And do you like my setup? Regards, Patrick

 

[Colif]

have you updated bios on the motherboard?

where is it slow? at bios flash screen or once windows starts to load?

 

[PatrickGr]

have you updated bios on the motherboard?

where is it slow? at bios flash screen or once windows starts to load?

The longest time is from pressing button due the monitor is lighting up

 

[Alm]

You might find it's just down to your monitor. I have 2 monitors and they both have different start up times.

 

[PatrickGr]

have you updated bios on the motherboard?

where is it slow? at bios flash screen or once windows starts to load?

The version is from 22.05.2024

 

[Colif]

Maybe try the monitor idea, see if its faster with just one or other attached. See if makes any difference.

 

[Slasken]

What you are describing seems pretty normal to me.

 

[Colif]

One minute start is normal on dual monitor? That doesn't seem right.

Glad I only have one then as I turn PC on and have about enough time to sit down and monitor is already showing the BIOS flash screen. Startup is 15 seconds.
And my PC isn't running a 7700X

If I am too slow to logon my screen will turn off.

did op try with just one attached? How are the two monitors attached?

 

[Slasken]

I thought it was one minute from pressing the button to the login screen.

OP, are you using an HDMI cable to connect your monitor?

 

[Colif]

It shouldn't take a new PC with an NVMe drive 1 minute to get to the login screen.

I haven't timed mine myself but its not that slow now. That is about as long as my old PC used to load windows from an ssd. And that was going to desktop.

Slow to logon screen makes it look like hardware not responding to bios fast enough.

Curious what the BIOS start time shows in Task manager/Startup apps as that shows how long it took BIOS to pass control to windows. In my case its 11.2 Seconds.

Obvious question: Are both monitor attached to GPU, not attached to motherboard backplate instead. GPU would be right place, just checking

 

[Slasken]

It shouldn't take a new PC with an NVMe drive 1 minute to get to the login screen.

It can take a while on a cold boot if the memory is retrained.

Enabling Memory Context Restore should help if that is the case.

 

[Brian Boru]

One minute start is normal on dual monitor? That doesn't seem right.

My 2017 PC—i7-7, 1060, SSD—has 2 TVs as monitors, and they're both up and showing the start process within seconds… maybe 10 seconds by time 2nd one shows, as I have to turn them both on and remote doesn't work on 2nd

 

[Colif]

But memory shouldn't need to retrain on every boot. Or cold boot. I mean, mine never does.
It should do that once after a bios update or when its installed. Then bios should know values.

If its forgetting each time it could mean the CMOS battery needs to be replaced. As it is what saves the settings for the BIOS.

 

[Slasken]

But memory shouldn't need to retrain on every boot. Or cold boot. I mean, mine never does.
It should do that once after a bios update or when its installed. Then bios should know values.

If its forgetting each time it could mean the CMOS battery needs to be replaced. As it is what saves the settings for the BIOS.

It does when MCR is off on AM5

 

[Colif]

Seems it is the case on MSI boards anyway, other boards don't necessarily need it enabled

If you’re like me with an MSI motherboard and “intel-optimized” teamgroup RAM googling around for how to deal with overwhelming POST times, I wanted to share with you the process I went through:

enable XMP >> 129 seconds to post but RAM runs at advertised speed (6000mhz in my case)
I have a Ryzen chipset so disable XMP enable EXPO >> 131 seconds to post
With XMP off, set frequency to 6000 manuallly >> 126 seconds to post
✔️Enable memory context restore with Power Down >> Win! 14 seconds to post and at full speed.
Simply don’t enable memory context restore >> nope haha I did
Learn how to overclock/add some volts for stability >> not today

Discussion - DDR5: Experiences with enabling Memory Context Restore

I thought I'd start this thread as I don't believe a dedicated one exists, I'm interested (and I think others would be too) in what kind of results people are getting with enabling this setting. Board: Asus TUF Gaming B650-PLUS, BIOS 1811 CPU: Ryzen 7800X3D RAM: Kingston Fury Renegade...

forums.anandtech.com

seems need to change 2 things in BIOS or may get BSOD just turning MCR on.
The thread has a link to an explanation of other command in it.

 

[Alm]

That's interesting. I have an MSI board. Maybe that explains it.

 

[Colif]

i didn't even know about it so its perhaps handy to know about in future when I upgrade. Someone I know with a 7800x3d didn't suggest it so I know its not all boards. His startup speed about same as mine is and has two monitors.

Might have to try to remember it for next year... i won't though.

 

[Brian Boru]

Might have to try to remember it for next year... i won't though

Put it on your popup reminder app, monthly recurring

 

[Colif]

created a bookmark to the post. Its the best I can do, a reminder would get annoying.
I don't have many bookmarks here so won't lose it.

 

[Brian Boru]

a reminder would get annoying

Er… that's its job!

 

[Colif]

Adds link of thread to a word document listing possible build in next 2 years.
I don't need to remember it now.

 

[Colif]

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/msi-mag-b650-tomahawk-wifi-slow-boot-solved.390768/