Random Hardware topics

[Colif]

IIRC They used to use those L3/R3 buttons for run in COD/BF and stuff in the PS3 era, it sucked because its a bit awkward to do in a pinch. They work fine as a lock on button in Souls likes, otherwise I'd rather have stuff mapped to the back paddles than there.

in slormancer left stick button mapped to the map and I couldn't work out why the map would randomly show up during combat, so I looked in the key maps but didn't know where the buttons were. Pifan showed me.

I am yet to play another game.

If I play a racing game I will probably use the xbox elite 2 as it would be a complete waste of money for me to buy a wheel. I don't play enough racing games, and well, controller just seems natural after so many consoles.

Damn, they've put my monitor back to 25th February again.

today only day so far this week I haven't looked. By time it hits Thursday night I stop looking at new things until weekend as nothing I buy online would show up tomorrow so might as well just wait. Its a new rule as the amount of times I have spent looking for things on Thursdays is too many

 

[Zed Clampet]

Asus have a new controller but from one review I watched its sticks are really loose and you can't tighten them. Its also expensive, almost 200 USD.

You need loose sticks for driving. In fact @Kaamos_Llama this reminded me of the Playstation controller (I have the DS4, too), and the sticks were too stiff. You need to be able to make a lot of micro-adjustments when you race, and if the sticks are too tight, you can accidentally push too hard and end up swerving back and forth.

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

in slormancer left stick button mapped to the map and I couldn't work out why the map would randomly show up during combat, so I looked in the key maps but didn't know where the buttons were. Pifan showed me.

I am yet to play another game.

Theyre too easy to click on accident on every controller I think.

If I play a racing game I will probably use the xbox elite 2 as it would be a complete waste of money for me to buy a wheel. I don't play enough racing games, and well, controller just seems natural after so many consoles.


today only day so far this week I haven't looked. By time it hits Thursday night I stop looking at new things until weekend as nothing I buy online would show up tomorrow so might as well just wait. Its a new rule as the amount of times I have spent looking for things on Thursdays is too many

I'm half considering cancelling the order, theres other fun stuff I can get right now. If it goes any later than end of month Ill get a new monitor in the autumn instead.

My 8BitDo Pro2 has Hall effect sticks and the Ultimate 2c has TMR and Hall Effect triggers but Im damned if I can tell the difference from potentiometer sticks in the games Ive played. Its nice they should last longer anyway.

Having said that I dont think I ever had a controller drift until I bought a Nintendo Switch, the JoyCons from Switch 1 are awful.

You need loose sticks for driving. In fact @Kaamos_Llama this reminded me of the Playstation controller (I have the DS4, too), and the sticks were too stiff. You need to be able to make a lot of micro-adjustments when you race, and if the sticks are too tight, you can accidentally push too hard and end up swerving back and forth.

I think you can change the sensitivity and dead zone of the sticks with the new ones I have through software, but I seem to remember the DS4 was barely compatible with Steam a lot of the time so maybe it wouldnt work with them.

 

[Zed Clampet]

Theyre too easy to click on accident on every controller I think.


I'm half considering cancelling the order, theres other fun stuff I can get right now. If it goes any later than end of month Ill get a new monitor in the autumn instead.

My 8BitDo Pro2 has Hall effect sticks and the Ultimate 2c has TMR and Hall Effect triggers but Im damned if I can tell the difference from potentiometer sticks in the games Ive played. Its nice they should last longer anyway.

Having said that I dont think I ever had a controller drift until I bought a Nintendo Switch, the JoyCons from Switch 1 are awful.



I think you can change the sensitivity and dead zone of the sticks with the new ones I have through software, but I seem to remember the DS4 was barely compatible with Steam a lot of the time so maybe it wouldnt work with them.

With Forza, you can change all that in-game. But no matter what settings you change, the sticks will always be tight. There's only so much you can do with dead zones.

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

With Forza, you can change all that in-game. But no matter what settings you change, the sticks will always be tight. There's only so much you can do with dead zones.

Got you, its been so long since I played a driving game I was using the dpad. I should pick something up again one day and see if I can get into it.

 

[Colif]

i don't think i ever noticed stick drift on any controller yet.
I don't play the right sort of games to notice.

youtube thinks I want to see controller videos now... I blame you both

 

[Zed Clampet]

i don't think i ever noticed stick drift on any controller yet.
I don't play the right sort of games to notice.

youtube thinks I want to see controller videos now... I blame you both

The only time I ever had drift was in the Duke. I emailed the company and they sent me a link for a firmware update. I had to download the code and then press a bunch of buttons. What gets me is they are still selling them in a state that requires you to decide to contact them and get the fix.

 

[Zed Clampet]

Got you, its been so long since I played a driving game I was using the dpad. I should pick something up again one day and see if I can get into it.

The Horizon series is fantastic. I'm trying to get Colif into it. The only problem is that the driving line is inaccurate. Maybe they'll fix it this time. The one in Motorsport is practically a cheat code.

 

[Colif]

What gets me is they are still selling them in a state that requires you to decide to contact them and get the fix.

Sounds to me like they don't have an update page on website? Otherwise, why isn't it on there.

Since heatsink on the GPU is black, I might as well go with flow

if I had been able to foresee future I would have ordered 2 black fans to make more items black. Will have to think about PSU cables.

 

[Colif]

something fishy here, if I search for my CPU on Google shopping its showing mostly bundles and very few individual CPU

Normally if you click an individual cpu it shows a list of the other stores that sell it as well, but 1st link just shows that one CPU

But if I use PC Part picker to find the CPU

there are heaps and none of these show on Google

Most shops are pushing bundles now as they want to get rid of hardware no one wants with something they do.

 

[Zed Clampet]

something fishy here, if I search for my CPU on Google shopping its showing mostly bundles and very few individual CPU

Normally if you click an individual cpu it shows a list of the other stores that sell it as well, but 1st link just shows that one CPU

But if I use PC Part picker to find the CPU

there are heaps and none of these show on Google

Most shops are pushing bundles now as they want to get rid of hardware no one wants with something they do.

I don't know how this works, but maybe the ones that show up in Google are simply paid ads.

 

[Colif]

it seemed to have fixed itself as 1st link now is to CPU and if I click it, has links to all the other sites.

 

[neogunhero]

i don't think i ever noticed stick drift on any controller yet.

Same here. I've worn down the rubber thumbsticks more times than I can count and I don't think I've ever noticed stick drift, ever. It is a bad problem and it does affect a large enough group of people for companies to have to do something about it, but I still feel the majority of gamers will never notice or experience it. I used an Xbox One controller for a solid 6 years and never got stick drift. My current Xbox Series X controller has been going strong for 4 years and all I've had to do to it was replace the thumbsticks because the rubber wore off.


TIL that XFX stands for "Extreme Effects".

 

[neogunhero]

All this talk from Colif about fans makes me want to reduce my fan speeds. My case isn't the best at airflow, I have 4 case fans configured as best as they can be (two front intake, one rear and one top exhausts), but I still run my GPU and mobo fans kind of hard. My GPU fan curve goes from 0% at 0c to 100% at 100c, just a straight line. I rarely ever notice the GPU hitting 50c even with it being below 0c outside here and the heater running near constantly, causing ambient temps to be warmer than usual. I bet I could get away with not running fans at all until it hits 40c, then slowly increasing it as it gets hotter. CPU runs a bit warmer, about 10c higher than GPU on average, but even in my most intense games it doesn't get higher than 55c max.

 

[Colif]

I bet I could get away with not running fans at all until it hits 40c, then slowly increasing it as it gets hotter. CPU runs a bit warmer, about 10c higher than GPU on average, but even in my most intense games it doesn't get higher than 55c max.

Most default fan curves on GPU won't start running the fan until it hits 60c, mine don't start until around there. I haven't changed mine at all so it uses a zero fan mode until there and then starts. I don't know what speed it starts at exactly.

I may install afterburner at some stage and look at it. The GPU fans aren't on enough to be annoying to me. They stop running once GPU goes below 50c and most days it idles between 35 and 40c. (and that is in summer, winter will be fun). Mine don't need to run outside of games as I have those 2 fans under GPU doing their job for them.

Do you run the case fans at similar speeds. the GPU/CPU fans can only do so much if they aren't getting cool air.

if the case fans are providing the air, perhaps you can change curves on the gpu. It doesn't need to be a straight line from 0 to 100. None of mine are.
CPU for example

The CPU Cooler is hybrid, its got a 120 and 140 in it, so its speed is an average

How fast they increase can depend on size of the fan, my 140mm case fans don't need to increase as fast as CPU one does. to push out more air (that and there are 3 of them) and above some speeds I start to hear them.
Case fan curve:

The two 120mm fans under the CPU are running the fastest in case... but have the most relaxed curve

All 3 linked to the CPU sensor since its normally the warmest thing. Software can't see the GPU itself so its next best thing.

Looking at them all here on one screen I realise they all have a minimum speed until just over 40c and then start to creep up, all maxing out at 90c. The app doesn't show them all on one screen. How aggressive the curve is depends on what fans are attached to. CPU more important than intake for most part.


I was messing with them last night but in summer I can't tell if any fan noise I hear is from my PC and not actually from other fans in house cooling rooms. Wrong time of year to tell.

note: I am no expert on curves, worked it out as I went along. 10 years ago I accidentally set up a curve where CPU fan would turn off completely. That was a surprise the 1st time it happened. Case fans went crazy.

 

[Colif]

It sure is

 

[Zed Clampet]

I set my fans to ramp up at a little over 60 and I've yet to hear them. PC is completely silent. Hottest my CPU has gotten is low 50's.