Random Hardware topics

[Colif]

About an hour ago I noticed I could get

for about $600 less than normal right now, but I am resisting as I had already said tonight I didn't want to buy anything this fortnight. I can't really afford it so I will ignore the special. And hope one like it shows up when I am in the market.

I also don't have space for a second monitor and there really isn't anything wrong with mine, so no need to replace it

And just maybe my next monitor won't be Samsung - most of them have been. The LG I have now is the 1st non Samsung Monitor I have had in 25 years.

Other things on my shopping list before I get a monitor.
Spent enough on computers this year... looks at sig

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

I've wanted a second screen for a while but my partner doesnt have enough room on my desk for it. Definitely staying clear of 4K though for now, nice as it would be I dont have the kind of moneu for a GPU to power it in the games Id like to play on it.

Sometimes it would be nicer to have a dedicated room but its also nice to be in the same room with the family, I probably wouldnt play as many games if I had to go to a different room.

The Steam Deck is pretty nice for that too, but its not good for strategy games and isometric RPGs, and I like to be able to play anything if I want to.

 

[neogunhero]

How well does downscaling a game to 1080p while using a 1440p monitor look? I'm wondering, if you had a 1440p monitor that can run most games at that resolution, but you fire up a more demanding game, dropping it down to 1080p could help with performance, but I wonder how image quality would look while using a higher res screen. Will it be blurry or stretched out?

 

[Colif]

I would suggest watching a you tube video showing what ii looks like but I can't find any - so many wrong results telling me what to buy instead... I hate you tube sometimes.

use upscaling instead. it looks better.

I hate shorts but its only choice

I want other things before I get a screen... it was just tempting for a little bit until sanity prevailed. Hopefully forgot about it by morning.

Current monitor bought same year as I got last PC, so it wouldn't be the 1st time. See what is around in a few months time, Xmas might be a better time.

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

How well does downscaling a game to 1080p while using a 1440p monitor look? I'm wondering, if you had a 1440p monitor that can run most games at that resolution, but you fire up a more demanding game, dropping it down to 1080p could help with performance, but I wonder how image quality would look while using a higher res screen. Will it be blurry or stretched out?

I think it looks very blurry and I can see it instantly when an indie game defaults to 1080p. It might depend on how different monitor models handle things, and Ive heard some people say it looks fine over the years so depends on they eyes in question too.

Like Colif said, you'd get the exact same effect by using DLSS, it will render the game at 1080p or lower and then upscale it to 2560x1440 and improve the image to look much better than if you just changed the resolution.

 

[Colif]

4K is twice the width and twice the height as 1080p, one pixel on 1080p is 4 pixels on a 4K display. A pixel perfect scale as pixel perfect as scales get.

On 1440p, 1080p is between 1 and 4 pixels, they never line back up. This causes moiré’s, blurring, and other issues. To avoid this, you’d have to play on 1080x720p.

Likewise, 720p won’t evenly scale onto 1080p displays, so if you’d like to demonstrate this at a lower resolution… play in 720p on your 1080p monitor.

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Like Colif said, you'd get the exact same effect by using DLSS, it will render the game at 1080p or lower and then upscale it to 2560x1440 and improve the image to look much better than if you just changed the resolution.

One day I might even play a game that requires it. One advantage to mainly playing indie/older games, none of them even use ray tracing yet alone upscaling.

I think my drivers have me auto running upscaling now... checks a game...

Yep

Only reason I am thinking about a new GPU is well, all my PC have had two of them... so its only natural. But its also likely I won't get one for a year or so... might even have played a game by then. Not looking to pay Nvidia tax next time either.

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

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One day I might even play a game that requires it. One advantage to mainly playing indie/older games, none of them even use ray tracing yet alone upscaling.

I think my drivers have me auto running upscaling now... checks a game...

Yep

Only reason I am thinking about a new GPU is well, all my PC have had two of them... so its only natural. But its also likely I won't get one for a year or so... might even have played a game by then. Not looking to pay Nvidia tax next time either.

Interesting, I dont think Nvidia has a setting for auto run on DLSS. At least not what I can see from a quick look.

 

[Colif]

Adrenaline sets a giobal experience, I can over ride it if I want to

I just let it do what it wants. Once I play a game I might change it.

 

[neogunhero]

Adrenaline sets a giobal experience, I can over ride it if I want to

Further proof that the graphics industry is pushing AI upscaling as the default option now. AI upscaling and frame generation should be features you can use if you wish, not the standard. I may overblowing this situation up but still, we see so many games run where using upscaling is a necessity to achieve good frames.

 

[Colif]

It wasn't on for a few years on my card but as its not the current generation any more, I guess there are games that it is needed on, and the drivers really don't know what you play, so the standard setting allows the features in case you play a modern AAA game that needs them to struggle to look good.

I agree that cards shouldn't need to rely on features to look good but I also know why they are doing it... apart from laziness, its a question of power.

The 5090 is already sucking stupid amounts of power and to keep making graphics better, the cards will need more power. And there is a limit to how many HPW12V cables you can attach to a card without becoming a fire hazard... and even that card needs to use some features. Like creating more false frames.

So using features is only way cards lower down the stack can even approach playing some games. And to keep selling interactive movies, the features need to keep getting better, so its inevitable. People keep wanting more pretty...

 

[Lutfij]

Steve on GamersNexus made a point...Nvidia tends push boundaries and the rest of the pack catch up and adopt said standards. This Ai thing was pushed by Nvidia first and is now a standard for everyone.

I agree with people being lazy since there are vast amounts of resources to make any component power efficient instead of power hungry.