Philandrapopiason III wants to start gaming. Explain why PC gaming is better than console gaming.

[Zed Clampet]

So the challenge here is to come up with additional "out of the box" arguments. The basic arguments are:

PC gaming is cheaper:
1) Consoles now cost as much as cheap gaming PCs
2) No monthly fees for PC gaming.
3) Much cheaper prices on games.

PC gaming gets all the games (except for Nintendo games)

Backward compatibility and emulation.

You can still game from your couch with Steam Link or a laptop

Free games (usually Epic)

Controllers suck (m/kb). Potentially better graphics. Upgradability. Broader selection of games.

Publishers charge less when stores like Epic take a lower cut

PC gamers are more mature and not at all angry edgelords

Nvidia making sure that GPUs are for everyone by aggressively keeping their prices dirt cheap.

Intel making sure their CPUs never catch on fire.

 

[Colif]

You don't need to replace the PC just to upgrade the GPU. you can replace all the internals if you want to**. Do that with a PS5

**provided you don't buy a Dell as they tend to use proprietary hardware that makes replacing parts difficult, but generally PC are upgradeable.
Other company to avoid is Apple if you want a gaming PC you can upgrade later.

 

[BeardyHat]

PCs I own from 2011 are still gaming today, still able to play games that are currently released.

I have 21 years worth of PC games I bought, easily accessible via Steam. With little effort, I can play even older games and there's plenty of old DOS games that are being kept alive with open source projects.

I'm not of a mind to convince people of something they might not be interested in, but PC gaming is one of the cheapest forms of gaming.

 

[Colif]

I don't see need to pick a side, there are some games you will unlikely ever see on PC, that you can only get on consoles. If you can afford both, why not. I used to have a PS3 and a PC at same time, its hardly difficult to achieve.

Consoles can make it easier to get into gaming without thrusting a keyboard at the new player right away.

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

Who are Phil and Rapopiason?

Theres always going to be the kind of people who just want to sit down and play without thinking about anything, so I dont think consoles are going away soon, no matter how much better gaming on PC is objectively speaking in every way but convenience.

@Zed Clampet Not related to gaming but it is an advantage of PC's that you can do a lot of other stuff with one. Music, Art, programming, AI or whatever if you get bored of gaming sometimes.

 

[Zed Clampet]

I don't see need to pick a side, there are some games you will unlikely ever see on PC, that you can only get on consoles. If you can afford both, why not. I used to have a PS3 and a PC at same time, its hardly difficult to achieve.

Consoles can make it easier to get into gaming without thrusting a keyboard at the new player right away.

</Playful>*

You're trying to give me a stroke, right? I keep trying to come up with discussion topics, and you keep dissecting the imaginary premise for the question instead of answering the actual question.

You just like giving me a hard time, but let me rephrase the question without any distractions:

"What's an advantage of PC gaming other than the ones I listed (if there are more advantages)"

Note: I seldom can properly read the tone of my own posts, so I added the tone selector above.

 

[Zed Clampet]

Who are Phil and Rapopiason?

Theres always going to be the kind of people who just want to sit down and play without thinking about anything, so I dont think consoles are going away soon, no matter how much better gaming on PC is objectively speaking in every way but convenience.

@Zed Clampet Not related to gaming but it is an advantage of PC's that you can do a lot of other stuff with one. Music, Art, programming, AI or whatever if you get bored of gaming sometimes.

The physical part of a console may very well be one of those rare things that become obsolete (due to being able to stream games to your television without the need for an actual console) but we continue to use them anyway.

I see consoles as keeping the digital store and game publishing parts of their business and then a sort of meta/social online thing to tie everything together. I wouldn't be surprised at all if some day in the next 20 years (you'll have to hire a medium and let me know) if a PC isn't just as much a "Playstation" as a television and physical console are today.

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

The physical part of a console may very well be one of those rare things that become obsolete (due to being able to stream games to your television without the need for an actual console) but we continue to use them anyway.

I see consoles as keeping the digital store and game publishing parts of their business and then a sort of meta/social online thing to tie everything together. I wouldn't be surprised at all if some day in the next 20 years (you'll have to hire a medium and let me know) if a PC isn't just as much a "Playstation" as a television and physical console are today.

Yea youre probably right about game streaming taking over.

I can see a world eventually where we wont have PC's or consoles. Itll happen faster if the hardware prices keep going up the way they have been. Unfortunately that means we will probably all be on subscriptions, though by that point we'll be so conditioned to it we probably wont care.

I hope PC's stick around though, I'd like to be able to play my old games whenever for the rest of my life.

 

[Pifanjr]

Considering sex sells: there are a lot more adult games available on PC.

 

[Colif]

Considering sex sells: there are a lot more adult games available on PC.

given target audience I can understand that one - Be waiting a long time for the Princess Peach XXX game from Nintendo

Okay Zed, I was just trying to see both sides... I let you go now

 

[Zimbaly]

Modding.
🤷‍♂️

 

[Johnway]

I think the emulation/modding are my key arguments. With a PC you can play all the console games and thensome. Consoles are restricted to what is provided by the developers whereas pc gaming we can emulate all the games that you can play on the console, access the internet play webgames , opportunity to mod the games etc.

Also i argue that having a pc isn't just just a gaming device, its work device and a gateway to your life. Buy stuff online, streaming, do office work, bigger communities, pay your bills, banking, insurance, etc etc.

 

[Pifanjr]

Also i argue that having a pc isn't just just a gaming device, its work device and a gateway to your life. Buy stuff online, streaming, do office work, bigger communities, pay your bills, banking, insurance, etc etc.

Besides office work, people do all that stuff on their phone. Though once you get proficient with a mouse and keyboard you can do most of it a lot faster on a PC and you have many more options.

 

[Zed Clampet]

Besides office work, people do all that stuff on their phone. Though once you get proficient with a mouse and keyboard you can do most of it a lot faster on a PC and you have many more options.

My wife does every non-work thing on her phone, and it drives me nuts. Here's an example of what bothers me. I was watching a television show, and there was a hilarious scene. What was so funny about it was the look on the actor's face, which would be impossible for me to describe. So I wanted my wife to look at it, and someone had uploaded the scene to Youtube, so I had her watch it. I was watching over her shoulder, and it wasn't the same. You couldn't see the subtlety of his reaction. It just wasn't visible on the tiny screen. Why anyone would want to watch anything worth watching on a phone is beyond me.

 

[DXCHASE]

G-SYNC/Freesync, 200+ Frames on a 144-265hz monitor that is OLED and ultrawide.

But the thing is YOU CAN get Nintendo and pretty much most games for 0 dollars on a PC.

 

[Zed Clampet]

But the thing is YOU CAN get Nintendo and pretty much most games for 0 dollars on a PC.

The potential to commit crimes can't be ignored.

 

[DXCHASE]

The potential to commit crimes can't be ignored.

Hey, out-of-the-box thinking, its a lot easier to get in trouble with the law on a PC lol. Like "hey did you hear about the group that stole billions in bitcoin?!" Only a pc could help them with that!

 

[BeardyHat]

My wife does every non-work thing on her phone, and it drives me nuts. Here's an example of what bothers me. I was watching a television show, and there was a hilarious scene. What was so funny about it was the look on the actor's face, which would be impossible for me to describe. So I wanted my wife to look at it, and someone had uploaded the scene to Youtube, so I had her watch it. I was watching over her shoulder, and it wasn't the same. You couldn't see the subtlety of his reaction. It just wasn't visible on the tiny screen. Why anyone would want to watch anything worth watching on a phone is beyond me.

I just don't understand how people can do that and it seems to be even worse with younger folks who grew-up with phones in hand; I've read many people write essays on their phones now. I can barely stand to post here via my phone, but sometime it's all I've got.

Anyway, I'm willing to accept such stories as apocryphal, as I don't actually know anyone in the younger age group.

 

[Zed Clampet]

I just don't understand how people can do that and it seems to be even worse with younger folks who grew-up with phones in hand; I've read many people write essays on their phones now. I can barely stand to post here via my phone, but sometime it's all I've got.

Anyway, I'm willing to accept such stories as apocryphal, as I don't actually know anyone in the younger age group.

If it makes you feel better about the younger generations, my kids are 21 and 23, and they basically just use their phones for texting, and they've had File Manager down since before age 10 when I made them mod their own Minecraft installations.

 

[BeardyHat]

If it makes you feel better about the younger generations, my kids are 21 and 23, and they basically just use their phones for texting.

Yeah, I suspect they're apocryphal stories, after all, how many stories about my generation were there in the 2010's?

 

[Zed Clampet]

Yeah, I suspect they're apocryphal stories, after all, how many stories about my generation were there in the 2010's?

I would like to note that I have bronchitis and a disorienting ear infection because in my post I originally typed "File Explorer" instead of "File Manager". Maybe it was 'explorer' at one time to tie into Internet Explorer? Probably not.

And we old folks are still telling stories about your generation

 

[Pifanjr]

I would like to note that I have bronchitis and a disorienting ear infection because in my post I originally typed "File Explorer" instead of "File Manager". Maybe it was 'explorer' at one time to tie into Internet Explorer? Probably not.

And we old folks are still telling stories about your generation

It's not called Explorer any more?

 

[BeardyHat]

I would like to note that I have bronchitis and a disorienting ear infection because in my post I originally typed "File Explorer" instead of "File Manager". Maybe it was 'explorer' at one time to tie into Internet Explorer? Probably not.

And we old folks are still telling stories about your generation

It's not called Explorer any more?

It's still Explorer, so you were correct. If you kill the process in task manager, it'll kill your task bar, file Windows, etc. then you can start it again by opening up a Run dialogue and typing explorer.

And yeah,I know about the stories😆

My parents will complain about Millennials being in college or something and I have to be like, "I'm 41, Mom."

 

[Zed Clampet]

It's not called Explorer any more?

No, it is. But I've taken so much dextromethorphan that I just saw a unicorn walk by in my living room.

 

[BeardyHat]

No, it is. But I've taken so much dextromethorphan that I just saw a unicorn walk by in my living room.

Does it poop ice cream?? Get me some!