Question LP GPU compatibility?

[Charagma]

After a topic yesterday with regards to system specs I started looking into possible upgrade possibilities and what it will cost end of the day.

1. I need a Riser Card. It is called a Tiny (a) Riser that is compatible for several in the Lenovo/IBM range.

2. I would need a LP GPU. This is where I get stuck. Years ago (Around Pentium 4 or 5ish) you were not able to mix memory. If your system had a specific memory then your GPU had to be the same type. Is this still a factor? I have DDR4 in my system but most of the LP GPU's has either DDR2 or DDR5. Think I saw one DDR4 in the list.

3. In most I can only see Recommended PSU. Not indicating usage. My PSU is a 65Watt but all LP's I have seen recommend a 300W PSU. Looking at possibly a Nvidia GT710 - 2GB (MSI) LP or a GT1030 - 4GB (Afox) LP.

System is a Lenovo M720q tiny, 35W CPU, SSD (Samsung 500GB) and nothing else fancy with an external 65Watt PSU.

Anyone able to give me more advise? Unfortunately, could not find anything on the internet to answer this question.

 

[Colif]

1. this thread might help (might be wrong risers)

Lenovo M720Q - This thing is RAD!

Full Disclosure - not a completed build, just waiting on Alan and my !sodimms. But here are a bunch of pictures. Cool thing is I think this thing will be able to handle a riser if you really want to add a HHHL NIC card for pfsense or 10g or whatever. I found a few places selling a riser for...

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might find some answers to this and PSU question in:

Lenovo Thinkcentre/ThinkStation Tiny (Project TinyMiniMicro) Reference Thread

@mobilenvidia has done a great job with their thread on the whole Project TMM ecosystem; but I'm now almost two and a half years down the Lenovo Tiny rabbit hole so I thought I would gather some reference material specific to them together in one spot so that it can perhaps save others some...

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2. No, not for a CPU from 2018. Most gpu now use GDDR instead of DDR so it would be impossible to match.

Nvidia GT710 - 2GB (MSI) LP

they have two models, one has ddr3 and other has gddr5
I would get this model if you can:

https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GT-710-2GD5-LP/Specification

GT1030 - 4GB (Afox) LP.

they make a GDDR4 version

https://www.afox-corp.com/index.php?m=content&c=index&a=show&catid=45&id=637

it doesn't show its power requirements but suggested for the model is 200w

NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 Specs

NVIDIA GP108, 1468 MHz, 384 Cores, 24 TMUs, 16 ROPs, 2048 MB GDDR5, 1502 MHz, 64 bit

www.techpowerup.com

of the two, the GT1030 is better.

 

[Charagma]

Yes that seems to have solved most of the questions.

I found something similar (will try and find it again) after I posted where the owner 3D printed a new case to fit everything which included several fans etc.

I am currently looking at the PSU's. I have seen adaptors from round to rectangular. I would just need to somehow verify if this would be able to take a Lenovo Laptop power supply (Round) and change it to the correct square. If this is possible I will be able to use a 350W + Laptop PSU instead of the 65W standard. Plan B would be to get the riser, and use an extended USB riser system to have the GPU outside the case running with it's own separate PSU. If I go this route I will be able to use a full size GPU.

CPU's on the second forum does not make sense to me. For years I was under the impression that the ZIF socket for Intel is different to that of AMD (Now Ryzen) yet he has both Ryzen and Intel on the same page. I know I cannot run a XEON chip due to the B360 chipset but can go up to an i9-9800T (Think was the 9800). But this still leaves me with an outdated GPU since it will just up to a UHD 630 (If my memory serves me right).

It is however true that this little box has a monster hiding inside of it. In my case it hangs on a visa bracket behind my screen. People see screen, keyboard and mouse and usually ask where my pc case is. Pointing to the little box hanging behind the screen, well I usually get the "yeah right!" look.

But it is dubbed my LOTTO project. Soon as I have things together, we can have our own little monster build in this forum.........daydreaming hard here so do talk to loud. LMAO

 

[Charagma]

This one.....hope I did the link correctly

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[Charagma]

Some interesting research progress.

I am still confirming the Tiny series number, but the tiny5 has a Nvme / x16PCI riser card available on the market. (Import for me unfortunately) The reason for a bit more research, it seems as if the Tiny5 was 4th and 5th gen CPU's with my model being a 10T8 and having a 8th Gen CPU. There is a possibility that my system could be referred to as a Tiny8. I can get hold of both items on import. One from UK and the other from I would assume China (Aliexpress).

The PSU problem can be resolved and replaced with a 20V300W lenovo square tip charger. Actually traced a place here in my country that keeps stock of them. Originally designed for the Lenovo Legion 15" but use the same plug and voltage. I can go higher on Wattage by using my current PSU cable but changing the resistor in the connector to a higher value. Doing this I can go up to a 450W PSU but must add it gets pricey then.

Upgrading the CPU to a 65W chip can be achieved by using the tiny "Bigbrother" M9 something" CPU cooler. Same size as my current cooling with an additional Cooler plate and better heat sink.

I might have also found a solution to the limited drives amount. Currently I have 1 sata (SSD connected to it) and 1 Nmve2 onboard. Adding the riser with the Nmve will give it 3 drives but can still add more if needed using the built in thunderbolt 3 type c plug.

Starting to look like endless possibilities here. I think my biggest upgrade ceiling will be the CPU where my highest would be an i9-9800 (think k). But that would be reaching the limit. CPU wise I would not be able to go higher but anything else is pretty much possible.

Now we just waiting for the Lotto LMAO

 

[Charagma]

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Anyone know if this will work? The idea of it running off a USB cable makes me ponder their theory. Considering it as a PCI riser to lift a full-sized GPU to outside the casing having my GPU and external power supply in a separate 3d printed box.

Input would be appreciated. Keep in mind that I will be changing from a non-std PCIe x4 port to a std PCIe x16 with the original Lenovo riser card first.

If the above is a viable option, can I not just run the external part directly from a 3.2 USB port? or maybe even from the Thunderbolt 3 port with a USB type C to USB (think A) cable?

In my country this is fairly cheap and can be a cheap solution to many of my head aches.

Edit: If it will work, I can just add a static relay to the USB port to switch the external PSU on and off with the PC