Cooling Performance vs Acoustics: What's More Important?

[Zed Clampet]

Someone will probably say something since I am hogging the topic now (Hence my silence of late).

LMAO, but have a look at the video in the about section. Pretty much explains what it does. It is not supposed to write songs for you it is just to broaden your scope on possible lyrics or words. So will basically need an "Input area", random word splicing area, and an output area. Output area needs to be movable so that you can rearrange the "cut-ups".

I know it sounds dumb, but example. If you had something to broaden your spectrum on ideas for a quest in a game. Instead of the usual "I walked into a jungle", you now have maybe 17 new ideas as to how you get into the jungle by clicking two buttons..........Do not know if that makes sense like that.

Unfortunately, AI is Copyright protected and every song imaginable is too (Unfair that a computer program may own (copyright) something it stole from humans, but that's unfortunately the laws), but if I can copy and paste say yesterday's news paper article about the amazon, I might have words to a song about the amazon tomorrow night.

I understand what it is doing and why. I'm pretty familiar with found poetry. I just wasn't sure whether the program was supposed to provide any assistance outside of randomization.

The copyright pitfalls are potentially significant depending on the sources used. In addition to letting you copy/paste whatever you want into it, we could provide some optional (not guaranteed) tools for producing text that lowers the odds of copyright infringement.

For instance, if you didn't already have text that you wanted to use, we could have an option to pull text from works in the public domain. Or if you had your own text from copyrighted material that you wanted to use, we could give you the option to have an SLM or LLM rewrite it since text generated by LLMs (or SLMs) is not considered copyrighted.

Things like this would just be extras. The full functionality of the original program would still be available to you.

I might see how well an LLM could take the jumble and reorder it to something coherent. That could be "lazy mode" where you just input text and it outputs lyrics, but I have serious doubts that this could be good or useful. Among other things, AI isn't great at semantic triage, and it is even worse than I am at writing poetry.

**********later***********

Here are lyrics created by an LLM that was fed the results of Verbasizer. Warning, it's painful to read although you could say the same for most pop song lyrics.

Missiles bloom over scorched estates, Greenland’s diary whispers of flesh and flight. Teenagers pray through vapes and wildfire, A senator’s silence breaks the night. Cartels trade dreams for broken headlines, Swift’s province drowns in sovereign shame. UN paintings bleed across the coast, A drone strike sketches love in flame. The world reboots on borrowed sorrow— And still, the monkey pulls the pin.

Then I told it I wanted it to rhyme, so it gave me this:

A pilot dreams of scorched escape, The coast reclaims its silent shape. Teenage prayers in vials of smoke, The minister’s vow begins to choke. A rogue parade through shattered glass, The headlines hum a fading mass. She paints her grief in stolen light, While satellites blink out of sight.

I may be poor at writing poetry, but I can smell garbage well enough.

We should probably move this conversation to PMs. And while I don't have capacity to work on this program at the moment, the more I think about it before I start, the better it will be.

 

[neogunhero]

hmm, motherboard manual doesn't help

the problem appears to be the fan controller used by that Motherboard isn't supported by Fan Control (more its not in the database they use for parts)

Fan Control does not find all fans. · Issue #977 · Rem0o/FanControl.Releases

To start off : I'm an absolute beginner when it comes to this kind of software so if you have answers please keep it as simple as possible , thank you =) System : Mainboard - Gigabyte X470 Aorus Ul...

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Just buy a new PC (just joking)
not that it helps but Gigabyte used a different controller on the X570 as headers worked as expected there... or I would have known the answer without looking

That would make a lot of sense... after all this motherboard was probably manufactured in 2017 when Ryzen first came out. It's still surprising to me that it can even support Zen 3, though AFAIK my mobo is one of very few X470 that support Zen 3. I just happened to luck out and be able to get a Ryzen 5000 chip without having to change mobo.

 

[Colif]

You were close, 2018 was release date.
You won't find many other boards with 7 years worth of BIOS updates - From F2 to F65 (though they did jump around with bios numbers, there aren't 65 BIOS. Clearly that AGESA fixed something they couldn't leave alone. Previous BIOS one year before.

I should update my BIOS, I am two behind now... just need time.

 

[Charagma]

Was there any logic to how it pulled phrases out of, for instance, news articles and then put them back together or was it completely random? What made it better than cutting sentences out of a newspaper, mixing them in a hat, and then pulling them out in random order? Obviously, using a PC to do that is easier, but is it also more effective due to how the quotes are selected and arranged or is that part of it just random? I'm assuming it's random.

For some reason missed this part of the message.

You had to have an Article or other song lyrics or some form of "input" where it would get its words from. You will see on the website it had 4 input areas. I in general just use the news headlines one to fill up the blocks. Then the software cuts all the words (so assume it uses space as the snipper) and then just throws all the loose words in the output in random order. No specific sequence. You then used to print that "output) part and cut it up into the words and start building sentences from it. The print/cut and placement is the outdated part. Think if I scratch really hard in my garage, I might still have a mono Lazer printer there. Huge, bulky and probably out of toner (LMAO). If it can throw all the words out in say like a "heap" and you can just drag them into different positions, then it would be great. The idea behind the "input" side was so you can actually have a topic for the lyrics. E.g. Airplanes, and whatever you place in the input side about airplanes then is available to you to shuffle around. You maybe use about 100 (10%) of the words it actually gives you since your Chorus is repetitive and so are some of your verses.

Edit: David Bowie Explaining (Roughly)

 

[Zed Clampet]

For some reason missed this part of the message.

You had to have an Article or other song lyrics or some form of "input" where it would get its words from. You will see on the website it had 4 input areas. I in general just use the news headlines one to fill up the blocks. Then the software cuts all the words (so assume it uses space as the snipper) and then just throws all the loose words in the output in random order. No specific sequence. You then used to print that "output) part and cut it up into the words and start building sentences from it. The print/cut and placement is the outdated part. Think if I scratch really hard in my garage, I might still have a mono Lazer printer there. Huge, bulky and probably out of toner (LMAO). If it can throw all the words out in say like a "heap" and you can just drag them into different positions, then it would be great. The idea behind the "input" side was so you can actually have a topic for the lyrics. E.g. Airplanes, and whatever you place in the input side about airplanes then is available to you to shuffle around. You maybe use about 100 (10%) of the words it actually gives you since your Chorus is repetitive and so are some of your verses.

Thanks. Did you see my other post after that?

In addition to what I posted in the other post, why is the verbasizer website insufficient? Why do we need a new one? For instance, I just made one about the church shooting in Minneapolis.

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It seems to do what you want. What needs to be added/changed?

Also, if I add AI, as I mentioned above, I suspect it would take this jumble and write a poem specifically about the real church shooting. Let me test this:

The pews still echo names not spoken, Glass stained by fire, by slurs, by fate. A child’s seat remains unbroken— Seventeen hearts, one locked gate. The Church wore mourning like a crown, Videos looped what silence knew. Reporters came, then turned back down, But Heaven held the residue. A boy beside the Mass was brave, His legacy etched in shattered stone. The shooter’s name, the wounds we save— Still written in a parent's phone. O’Hara prayed, the dove took flight, While windows wept in painted light.

Nope, I was wrong. It didn't use knowledge of the real event. I don't know if that was just because it couldn't connect the dots and realize this was a current story in the news.

 

[Charagma]

fire ran slurs did Scallen week mourning reporters officials began posted with house saved s laid but locked proud leaPatrick

Yes does everything to there. now the output gets printed and cut into seperate words. I will get (Using your output here)

fire
ran
slurs
did
Scallen
week
mourning

So maybe something like "The fire in me started burning last week and slurred till this morning" (As an Idea of lyrics that might be used). This is just a guide to give you a wider scope on lyric probabilities. Not actual lyrics. It is not AI that gives you a full song with a few clicks. LMAO

EDIT: The opening lyrics of a great country hit if you ask me. LOL

 

[Zed Clampet]

Yes does everything to there. now the output gets printed and cut into seperate words. I will get (Using your output here)

fire
ran
slurs
did
Scallen
week
mourning

So maybe something like "The fire in me started burning last week and slurred till this morning" (As an Idea of lyrics that might be used). This is just a guide to give you a wider scope on lyric probabilities. Not actual lyrics. It is not AI that gives you a full song with a few clicks. LMAO

EDIT: The opening lyrics of a great country hit if you ask me. LOL

Well, I know that's not what you want (AI generating lyrics), but I thought that you could have the option to have the AI generate sentences and use that as brainstorming to help the creative process (my brain is currently broken, so a jumble of words seems useless to me other than a brainstorming tool, but I'm sure people with better functioning brains don't have that problem).

 

[Zed Clampet]

Yes does everything to there. now the output gets printed and cut into seperate words. I will get (Using your output here)

fire
ran
slurs
did
Scallen
week
mourning

So maybe something like "The fire in me started burning last week and slurred till this morning" (As an Idea of lyrics that might be used). This is just a guide to give you a wider scope on lyric probabilities. Not actual lyrics. It is not AI that gives you a full song with a few clicks. LMAO

EDIT: The opening lyrics of a great country hit if you ask me. LOL

BUT, your example of how you used it explains a lot. I'm still unclear as to why the website isn't sufficient. You just want something where you could highlight your chosen words and put them in a separate area?

I'm not thinking well today (my health problem), so if this is frustrating, we can do it later when my brain is working better.

 

[Charagma]

Well, I know that's not what you want (AI generating lyrics), but I thought that you could have the option to have the AI generate sentences and use that as brainstorming to help the creative process (my brain is currently broken, so a jumble of words seems useless to me other than a brainstorming tool, but I'm sure people with better functioning brains don't have that problem).

AI is all copyrighted. Actually, have an artist friend that is in a court case for using words he got from a Royalty free AI melody creator app on his phone. Once it gets generated it gets foot printed and becomes the property of it's creator. The same with me writing a song and composing it. Once I am done, I own it, and copyright is automatically instated to me. I am staying away from any form of AI as much as possible simply because the copyright laws on it is in a grey area and as per law it belongs to the creator which in AI instances falls to the AI.

You can paste anything into the "input" side, even some old poems. Input is up to the user where he/she gets it from.

 

[Charagma]

BUT, your example of how you used it explains a lot. I'm still unclear as to why the website isn't sufficient. You just want something where you could highlight your chosen words and put them in a separate area?

I'm not thinking well today (my health problem), so if this is frustrating, we can do it later when my brain is working better.

Ah ok I see where the miss understanding comes in. Let me try and explain. The program there works perfect. Nothing wrong with it. Now yu have an "output" with say 3000 seperate words in it. Since no one use printers and sciccors anymore we now copy and paste the output to word and start making 3000 one liners. Now we go up and down amongst the 3000 words to find words that might make a sentence. Each time cut the word and pasting it back to where it might work. If you find another word that works, you cut that word out again, add it to the bottom of the list and then take your new word and place it in the line you are busy with. Sound simple but there must be a way that all the words can just be moved like a little square and if you don't like it just goes to another little heap for in case you need it again.

You are correct in saying the software is doing what it should but what comes after that is the part I am trying to make it easier. You are a programmer, so think of you writing a program with 3000 commands and all of them in one long list you need to go through every time to get to the next part of your command. Also thinking there can be a GUI update. Maybe a tad more user friendly.....LMAO. Or be Microsoft and make it as hard as possible for anyone to use

 

[Zed Clampet]

AI is all copyrighted.

Maybe this is true for the country you live in, but almost nothing generated by AI is protected by copyright in the US. However some programs have restrictive terms of usage, which may be what your friend is running into, but I could list at least half-a-dozen AI music generators that are definitely not copyrighted.

Anyway AI work is all I've done lately, and that is why I mentioned using it in some capacity, but what you have described to me doesn't need it, and you don't want it, so I'll toss that in the garbage bin

By the way, if you want a list of AI song generators that provide full usage rights, let me know. However, as I'm sure you are aware, AI is pretty terrible at producing anything of value.

 

[Charagma]

Honestly, I am scared of AI. Seen many things about AI here in my country. The law says the "creator" of the piece E.g. lyrics, arrangements, loop, stem, etc. Does not matter, but the "creator" owns it, and it is loyalty free as long as you do not make money from it. If I take a $50 for a loop (inside one of my own compositions) I got from AI, they want a cut and their name attached to all documents pertaining that song. Also, I need to pay royalties each time a copy is sold. Same guy that is in the court case now, I asked him, who do I need to pay for just making a chord on a guitar. Most probably one of the ancient popes, but how much and where do I send it. He was the creator.

Thank you for the offer but I am steering clear from anything AI. Closest I have to AI is co-pilot and that is simply because I do not know how to uninstall it.

 

[Zed Clampet]

Honestly, I am scared of AI. Seen many things about AI here in my country. The law says the "creator" of the piece E.g. lyrics, arrangements, loop, stem, etc. Does not matter, but the "creator" owns it, and it is loyalty free as long as you do not make money from it. If I take a $50 for a loop (inside one of my own compositions) I got from AI, they want a cut and their name attached to all documents pertaining that song. Also, I need to pay royalties each time a copy is sold. Same guy that is in the court case now, I asked him, who do I need to pay for just making a chord on a guitar. Most probably one of the ancient popes, but how much and where do I send it. He was the creator.

Thank you for the offer but I am steering clear from anything AI. Closest I have to AI is co-pilot and that is simply because I do not know how to uninstall it.

Well, now that I really understand how it's used, AI would defeat the purpose and would be inappropriate.

As far as copyrights go, it's very complicated, but if you use someone else's system to create something with AI, then they potentially have the ability to claim a copyright on it. AND, you have to obey their TOS. But if you download a non-commercial AI and make something on your own PC, then you are the one who can potentially copyright it

 

[Charagma]

Well, now that I really understand how it's used, AI would defeat the purpose and would be inappropriate.

As far as copyrights go, it's very complicated, but if you use someone else's system to create something with AI, then they potentially have the ability to claim a copyright on it. AND, you have to obey their TOS. But if you download a non-commercial AI and make something on your own PC, then you are the one who can potentially copyright it

And that will cost you a lot of money in court to prove. My $5 against their $2mil. The man with the deepest pockets wins......Sad but true. I am sure there are loopholes and flaws in the copyright system, (Mostly grey areas at the moment and a lot of fingers pointing), but my dad always told me "If you see a beehive, why would you want to stick your head in it?" So, AI = Beehive and my head is going nowhere near it.

 

[Zed Clampet]

And that will cost you a lot of money in court to prove. My $5 against their $2mil. The man with the deepest pockets wins......Sad but true. I am sure there are loopholes and flaws in the copyright system, (Mostly grey areas at the moment and a lot of fingers pointing), but my dad always told me "If you see a beehive, why would you want to stick your head in it?" So, AI = Beehive and my head is going nowhere near it.

As I said, AI is out.

I went and talked to people in the music industry, and I just finished talking to a songwriter who is signed to Sony Nashville, and he said:

"the industry is bracing for AI lawsuits right now, as any song with lyric or melody partially created or edited with AI cannot be copyrighted which is obviously a real problem for any professional use. Both Suno and Google AI have already brought lawsuits and cease and desist orders against major labels over current revenue generating works."

So I was incorrect when I stated you could copyright music if you used your own AI program. It can't be copyrighted at all. The person you know is probably being sued for copyrighting the music (or using it commercially like it's copyrighted), not for infringing on someone else's copyright.