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Rewritten and expanded notes on local image generation:

Use Forge UI, which you can get from github or pinokio. This is easy to use and powerful. You can also try comfyui, obtained the same way, but it has a steeper learning curve. All of these things are free.

If you plan on using LoRAs (special training to make particular types of pictures) and you are using Flux, then you need the Dev version because no one makes LoRAs for the streamlined Schell version.

If you don't have at least an RTX 4080 GPU, use the "Diffusion in Low Bits" setting. Either of the "automatic" settings is fine, but the "bnb" settings were actually made by the developers of Forge, so they may provide a small speed boost.

The size of the picture you are asking for makes a huge difference in both speed and content. Make sure there is enough space for the AI to draw what you want. Also, you can have the AI make perfect upscales for you, so going too big could be a waste of time since upscaling is much faster than image generation.

These work off of natural language. Don't just throw out single words. It won't know what you want. Adding words like "detailed" or even something like "exciting" can help generate better pictures.


People generation

Many pictures will probably have people in them, but if you just want one person, you need to be exact in your description especially regarding age. If you want a woman mixing cookie dough, don't casually replace "woman" with "girl" because you will end up with a child. If you say "woman" but aren't more specific, you'll get a young woman in her mid 20s. If you want a little boy playing with a ball and you say "young boy", then you'll get anything from a 2 year-old to a 17-year old because all boys are young, so it just picks a random age. It can be difficult because the AI doesn't understand numbers, so saying "5-year-old" doesn't mean anything to it. The same problems apply to anyone over 30. Everyone over 30 is "old", so that doesn't help, and it can be very challenging to get an elderly person.

AI associates various things and acts accordingly whether you want it to or not. For instance, adding weight to someone generally makes them older, as does shortening a woman's hair. Hair length plays a huge role in what the AI thinks the face will look like, and a man with long hair is likely to look like a dashing pirate, while a young woman with short hair will often look like a punk drug user. And without great effort, everyone in the picture will be in the same mood. A little girl laughing as she holds a frog? Everyone else will be laughing too. There are just a lot of oddities you'll learn along the way when trying to get AI to make people.

I'm quitting now because I'm hungry, but there are many fascinating things about the images AI makes.
 

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there are many fascinating things about the images AI makes

Great stuff. If you want to share or document more on this, we could move this to Hardware forum—that's where Software topics go—as its own thread.

AI make perfect upscales

Is that only of images the AI generates, or can it do external images you feed it?
 
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Great stuff. If you want to share or document more on this, we could move this to Hardware forum—that's where Software topics go—as its own thread.



Is that only of images the AI generates, or can it do external images you feed it?
It can do any image you give it if you are using Forge. It has a bunch of cool features. You can also put an image in and enter a prompt for how you want the image changed, along with sliders that indicate things like how carefully you want it to comply to your prompt versus changing the image. Other people are better at this than I am because I haven't played with it much. Theoretically, you could put "glasses" in the negative prompt and it would remove someone's glasses, but I need to watch a tutorial on that because I couldn't get the sliders right. Upscaling an image is really easy, though. It does a nice job.

You can also paint a mask over a picture and have it just change that. For instance, you could paint over a jersey and have it change it to a different color and leave the rest of the image alone. Or you could just tell it to put a different team's jersey on so long as it knows what that jersey looks like.

Sometimes I struggle to figure out why I would want to use some of these features, but they are fun to goof around with. I think the picture editor would be theoretically great at tweaking an AI picture you had made to get it exactly how you want it. "Remove third leg from face" "delete fingers 6 to 17" "replace disembodied head sticking out of shoulder with a parrot" :)

It's really not that bad anymore, but some of the LoRAs you might use can bring back some old AI habits.
 
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I'm having involuntary throat spasms just looking at this.

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Everyone here said they had never tried Nashville hot chicken. I strongly suggest this not be the way you try it.
 
I'm somewhat seriously considering adopting an older child or two, you know, like teenagers. I'm not visiting the local orphanage site yet because I'd have 3 by dinner. I know several people who have adopted with mixed results. A couple of those kids were beyond messed up, turned 18 and were never seen again, but I feel like I'm a good judge of people and could avoid the major head-case kids. I'm not looking to fix someone. That's a difficult and extremely rare accomplishment. I just want a nice kid who needs a family.

Not sure how my kids would like this, but they are independent now, so it's not as big a deal as if they would be living in the same house. Still would want their approval. My wife will complain about sending more people to college...
 

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Everyone here said they had never tried Nashville hot chicken. I strongly suggest this not be the way you try it.
Our family went down to Florida a few years ago, and we found "Kansas City style potato chips." Our chips are just like everyone else's in the USA. Of course, we had to buy some - they were good! I wish we could get KC-style chips in KC instead of having to go clear to the Florida panhandle to get them.
 
Newsflash: Zed is utterly bored.

Child Services have a Q:
"Would you feed the child Spicy Chunky Nashville Hot Chicken soup?"

My fav soup brand by a mile, I could probably live on Campbell's alone—how haven't they become THE word like hoover and google?
I like Campbell's. The thing is, Nashville Hot is like Buffalo chicken. The only thing that makes it Nashville Hot is this thick, syrupy sauce. I'm picturing this sauce watered down as the liquid in this soup, and it isn't appetizing.
 
Our family went down to Florida a few years ago, and we found "Kansas City style potato chips." Our chips are just like everyone else's in the USA. Of course, we had to buy some - they were good! I wish we could get KC-style chips in KC instead of having to go clear to the Florida panhandle to get them.

At least it's in the same country. We have American Fry Sauce on this side of the ocean which I'm pretty sure no American has ever seen before.

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Our family went down to Florida a few years ago, and we found "Kansas City style potato chips." Our chips are just like everyone else's in the USA. Of course, we had to buy some - they were good! I wish we could get KC-style chips in KC instead of having to go clear to the Florida panhandle to get them.
Were they BBQ like KC Masterpiece?
 
At least it's in the same country. We have American Fry Sauce on this side of the ocean which I'm pretty sure no American has ever seen before.

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Not sure why they'd call that "American" fry sauce because traditionally most Americans use ketchup on their fries, and from the look of the label that appears to be cheese sauce. I know frites is the French way of saying fries, but correct me if I'm wrong, most of their cheese sauces are white aren't they?

So maybe the reason they call this an American Fry Sauce is it's perhaps made with cheddar, which is our most common type of cheese. Still though, it really should be called specifically an American style CHEESE fry sauce, because ketchup still reigns supreme for fries over here.
 
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Cheese fries are really common these days, at least where I live. Maybe that's what they meant. Just cheese fries in general. And they always use orange/yellow cheese. That and chili-cheese fries seem to be the two most common variations. Maybe other countries don't do the cheese fry thing. I never get cheese fries, but Guido does every now and then.
 
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Not sure why they'd call that "American" fry sauce because traditionally most Americans use ketchup on their fries, and from the look of the label that appears to be cheese sauce. I know frites is the French way of saying fries, but correct me if I'm wrong, most of their cheese sauces are white aren't they?

So maybe the reason they call this an American Fry Sauce is it's perhaps made with cheddar, which is our most common type of cheese. Still though, it really should be called specifically an American style CHEESE fry sauce, because ketchup still reigns supreme for fries over here.

Cheese fries are really common these days here. Maybe that's what they meant. Just cheese fries in general. And they always use orange/yellow cheese. That and chili-cheese fries seem to be the two most common variations. Maybe other countries don't do the cheese fry thing. I never get cheese fries, but Guido does every now and then.

American Fritessaus is basically Miracle Whip with some extra mustard and parsley. There is no cheese involved, it's just marketing.
Fun fact: it's the default sauce you get with your fries at McDonald's in the Netherlands.

As for cheese fries, we do have a popular dish called Kapsalon which is a layer of fries, shawarma, cheese and salad:

Kapsalon_Amstelveen.jpg
 
American Fritessaus is basically Miracle Whip with some extra mustard and parsley.
No one does that here, so I suppose it's just marketing, kind of like putting a black woman on your bottle of syrup even though it's not made of black women...or something like that...or all the Italian restaurants here with Italian names that are actually run by hillbillies.
 
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At least it's in the same country. We have American Fry Sauce on this side of the ocean which I'm pretty sure no American has ever seen before.

remia-american-fritessaus-topdown.jpg
When I lived in Germany as a kid they had “McDonalds Style Ketchup” in a bottle. It was perhaps the worst ketchup I’ve ever had, way too sweet. Maybe they thought Americans love sugar so they loaded normal ketchup with tons of extra sugar to create that monstrosity. To be fair, our ketchup usually does have high fructose corn syrup which is essentially thick sugar syrup, so they weren’t completely wrong.
 
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American Fritessaus is basically Miracle Whip with some extra mustard and parsley. There is no cheese involved, it's just marketing.
Fun fact: it's the default sauce you get with your fries at McDonald's in the Netherlands.

As for cheese fries, we do have a popular dish called Kapsalon which is a layer of fries, shawarma, cheese and salad:

Kapsalon_Amstelveen.jpg
You know in the back of my mind it DID seem odd the French would make a cheddar style cheese sauce!
 
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When I lived in Germany as a kid they had “McDonalds Style Ketchup” in a bottle. It was perhaps the worst ketchup I’ve ever had, way too sweet. Maybe they thought Americans love sugar so they loaded normal ketchup with tons of extra sugar to create that monstrosity. To be fair, our ketchup usually does have high fructose corn syrup which is essentially thick

sugar syrup, so they weren’t completely wrong.
HFCS I avoid like the plague! It's hard for a human body to even digest that stuff and today's soda that has it has caused a lot of US students to become diabetic. I always get ketchup with no HFCS, and you only taste a bit of natural sweetness of the tomatoes. If ketchup has no tartness though it's horrible.

If HFCS were actually sugar instead of an over processed corn product though, it wouldn't be as much of a problem.
 
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When I lived in Germany as a kid they had “McDonalds Style Ketchup” in a bottle. It was perhaps the worst ketchup I’ve ever had, way too sweet. Maybe they thought Americans love sugar so they loaded normal ketchup with tons of extra sugar to create that monstrosity. To be fair, our ketchup usually does have high fructose corn syrup which is essentially thick sugar syrup, so they weren’t completely wrong.

We absolutely do love our sugar though. There's sugar in almost everything and you actually need to go out of your way to avoid it; a regular American diet will consist of heaps of sugar if you're not watching.

Not that I'm high and mighty or anything. I literally just ate a brownie and then a cookie afterwards, so...
 
HFCS I avoid like the plague! It's hard for a human body to even digest that stuff and today's soda that has it has caused a lot of US students to become diabetic. I always get ketchup with no HFCS, and you only taste a bit of natural sweetness of the tomatoes. If ketchup has no tartness though it's horrible.

Got any recommendations on the zero sugar ketchup? I've bought some, but found it's loaded with artificial sweeteners anyway.
 
We absolutely do love our sugar though. There's sugar in almost everything and you actually need to go out of your way to avoid it; a regular American diet will consist of heaps of sugar if you're not watching.

Not that I'm high and mighty or anything. I literally just ate a brownie and then a cookie afterwards, so...
It’s absolutely true. I’m still very bad with sugar but I have been making a conscious effort to eliminate all traces of high fructose corn syrup, though I’m not 100% on top of it. My main issue with sodas. It’s so ingrained in my daily diet that I know it will be hard to cut but I also know how terrible it is for you. I’ve tried “healthy” sodas like Olipop which are very good, but also nearly $3 a can. I’m certain if I cut all sugar and HFCS out of my diet I would be a lot happier and energetic.
 
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In python you are supposed to create an isolated virtual environment for each of your projects, but I used a bunch of one-click install scripts to install everything, and they didn't use venv, so now I can never have multiple projects going at the same time. This AI stuff is a pain to install, so I'm just living with it at the moment.
 
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Whenever I make a multi-item order on Amazon, they try to convince me to take the latest arrival date for all items. There persuasive argument is that this "requires fewer trips to your house." That makes it sound like some poor guy from the Amazon warehouse keeps having to drive to my house. It's actually the mailman who delivers my stuff, and he's here every day.
 
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Well, since any topic kind of goes here, has anyone else had a looping black screen from the latest W11 update? I forgot how I solved it last time, but a guide I found saying to restart holding your power button 3 times giving you troubleshoot, etc options does not work.

Then I remembered the way I fixed it before was just using Ctrl+Alt+Del, then clicking the Power button that appears in the lower right, then clicking Restart while holding down the Shift key, is the quickest, easiest way to get to those options panels when having BSOD.

When they appear, you want to choose Troubleshoot, then Advanced, then Uninstall Updates. Typically it's the "Quality" Update that is the culprit. It's usually that it's either corrupt, or conflicting with a particularly finicky piece of software on your PC, which I happen to have.

Finicky software meaning I noticed after W11 booted to desktop, the Razer Synapse 3 app was reinstalling itself, and I vaguely recollect that happening last time I had to uninstall a W11 update. This may even vary among Razer users depending on spec and peripherals.
 
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