Avowed Discussion Thread

[Kaamos_Llama]

metacritic is where you go to do political review bombing without having to actually buy the game. It's useless and insufferable.

Ive seen it in Steam as well sometimes. Not sure if they have moderated it there and cleaned it up now.

This isnt a AAA budget game as we know it and they are selling it for $70, but thats only a problem if you have a PS5 because Gamepass is 11.99 a month.

This was a bad way to put it. Its not a massive sprawling open world like an Assassins Creed, Fallout or Elder Scrolls, but its a big game with a lot of stuff to do.

 

[ZedClampet]

Ive seen it in Steam as well sometimes. Not sure if they have moderated it there and cleaned it up now.


This was a bad way to put it. Its not a massive sprawling open world like an Assassins Creed, Fallout or Elder Scrolls, but its a big game with a lot of stuff to do.

You do get the occasional DEI complaint on Steam in reviews, but not nearly as often as on metacritic, but if there are too many DEI, or any type of political, complaints, then Steam doesn't count them. They are considered off-topic and not included in the score. They aren't moderated, but you won't see them when you scroll down to reviews unless you request to see them. Another important factor is simply being required to buy the game to leave a review, and Steam won't necessarily refund the game for you if you are buying games, leaving reviews and asking for refunds. You can only do that a couple of times before Steam denies your refund request, and then you won't be able to refund any game for awhile.

 

[DXCHASE]

The amount of hate this game has been getting is kind of astonishing. Gamers are an insufferable lot, that I know, but this time around particularly they seem enraged for a variety of reasons. I did see some mention W word and the like, but mostly just been seeing people trash talking the game without even trying it themselves. Saying things like "this looks ugly", "this looks mid", "boring AF game", but that is the extent of their comments. Every game deserves some criticism, but only from those who have experienced it themselves.

The hate is astonishing to me too. Its an actual full-fledged, well optimized game. I mean, take a look at games like LOTR Golem or Skull Island: Rise of Kong. Two games released by major, or at least well-known, studios and were just awful and down right bad execution, not just graphics and janki-ness, but the gameplay, UI, sound, voice acting etc. etc.. There are plenty more, Concord for one and does anyone remember Babylons Fall? Yea these two games were so bad they were closed down.

Those are bad games, but you really only saw hate around them around the time before and after their initial release. The way people are ripping on Avowed or when Dragon Age Veilguard landed, two games that are decent enough games and even though they have their criticisms, are far superior to the ones mentioned above.

The term "DEI" wasnt thrown around as much even as little as 2-3 years ago and now thats just the catch-all phrase along with "woke" for people to just hate a game without actually playing it. Lets not forget all the fake images and taken out-of-context lines of dialogue displayed around to further get people to dismiss and hate on a game they never played.

I do get valid criticisms of Avowed, a 70 usd price tag is terrible for any games basic edition for one, but nowadays, gamers just attach themselves to whatever their friends or favorite youtuber say about the game. Thats why people like Asmon need to go away expeditiously because the amount of biased reviews is at an all time high right now imo.

 

[neogunhero]

Thats why people like Asmon need to go away expeditiously because the amount of biased reviews is at an all time high right now imo.

He is definitely one of the major factors feeding into the gaming communities’ extremely negative mindset. He’s one of the loudest voices in game streaming, and typically the stuff he says is pure negativity and hatred, and his audience adopts that same way of thinking. Dude couldn’t even bother cleaning his house for years and this is the guy people choose to listen to when it comes to any sort of valid critique on games lol.

 

[ZedClampet]

He is definitely one of the major factors feeding into the gaming communities’ extremely negative mindset. He’s one of the loudest voices in game streaming, and typically the stuff he says is pure negativity and hatred, and his audience adopts that same way of thinking. Dude couldn’t even bother cleaning his house for years and this is the guy people choose to listen to when it comes to any sort of valid critique on games lol.

Even Stephanie Jim Sterling, at the height of their madness, weren't just slamming games to slam them. Glad I don't watch Asmondwhatever.

 

[Pifanjr]

nowadays, gamers just attach themselves to whatever their friends or favorite youtuber say about the game. Thats why people like Asmon need to go away expeditiously because the amount of biased reviews is at an all time high right now imo.

I'm pretty sure gamers have been talking bad about games they've never played for years. There were console wars 30 years ago, probably even longer, and I doubt most of the fanboys really knew what they were talking about. They just parroted random facts and opinions they heard somewhere because some people just like complaining about what other people like so they can feel superior about their own choices.

 

[Alm]

I'm pretty sure gamers have been talking bad about games they've never played for years. There were console wars 30 years ago, probably even longer, and I doubt most of the fanboys really knew what they were talking about. They just parroted random facts and opinions they heard somewhere because some people just like complaining about what other people like so they can feel superior about their own choices.

I agree with this. I find people more reasonable these days, but that could be because I limit myself to this forum!

In the early 2000's you were "gay" for disagreeing with people who hated things. Everything was "for the lulz". People didn't listen and just took the mick.

 

[neogunhero]

I'm pretty sure gamers have been talking bad about games they've never played for years. There were console wars 30 years ago, probably even longer, and I doubt most of the fanboys really knew what they were talking about. They just parroted random facts and opinions they heard somewhere because some people just like complaining about what other people like so they can feel superior about their own choices.

While that is true, and there is no real way of measuring how much "hatred" a game gets based off online comments alone, I feel generally these days people are way quicker to jump on a bandwagon of hate and not give any meaningful critique. It all comes with the destruction of our attention spans due to internet use/social media. People are easily persuaded in their opinions, and social media makes it much easier to make someone think one way or another.

With Avowed specifically, the amount of Youtube comments Tiktok videos/comments trash talking this game is way higher than I at least personally have noticed. Heck I just seen this guy on Tiktok who's whole schtick is "if this game fails to impress me in 30 minutes then I move onto the next game" and he didn't even get past the opening sequence before deeming Avowed to be a bad game, then everyone in his comments sees that and starts agreeing.

This whole convo isn't about me defending Avowed because I think it's the best game ever made, it's just all the poor opinions being spewed about this game that just irks me. I only call them poor because as I stated above, it seems nearly everyone talking bad about it has not actually played the game or given it a fair chance at all. Now with the internet you are able to throw your opinion out there and find a hundred people who agree, which then just keeps getting echoed and grow louder. I have only seen one video where I felt the person gave the game a very fair shot and came to the conclusion that the game just isn't for them, which I completely respect. That guy had the decency to play 10 hours of the game before making that video, and that is more than a fair shot at it.