AMD Ryzen 7800X3D proposed rig for 4K gaming

[Peter Browne]

I would like comments/suggestions please on the subject rig as detailed below.

Prices US$

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black 82.51 CFM CPU Cooler ($109.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($213.18 @ Amazon)
Memory: *G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Kingston Fury Renegade 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($389.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital WD_BLACK 8 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive ($179.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Western Digital WD_BLACK 8 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive ($179.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI SUPRIM X GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($2049.00 @ MSI)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro OEM - DVD 64-bit ($149.99 @ Adorama)
Monitor: Asus ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDM 31.5" 3840 x 2160 240 Hz Monitor ($1799.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $5759.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-01 03:09 EDT-0400

Prices Australian $

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($573.45 @ Amazon Australia)
CPU Cooler: *Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black 82.51 CFM CPU Cooler ($159.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: *MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($315.23 @ Amazon Australia)
Memory: *G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($198.00 @ Centre Com)
Storage: *Kingston Fury Renegade 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($580.59 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: Western Digital WD_BLACK 8 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive ($301.50 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: *Western Digital WD_BLACK 8 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive ($301.50 @ Amazon Australia)
Video Card: MSI SUPRIM X GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($3199.00 @ Centre Com)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.95 @ Amazon Australia)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($254.00 @ JW Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro OEM - DVD 64-bit ($184.00 @ Amazon Australia)
Monitor: Asus ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDM 31.5" 3840 x 2160 240 Hz Monitor
Total: $6191.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-01 17:10 AEST+1000

 

[Peter Browne]

OK some upgrades to above:

US $

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black 82.51 CFM CPU Cooler ($109.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($226.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston Fury Renegade 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($389.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Kingston Fury Renegade 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($389.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Kingston Fury Renegade 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($389.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *MSI SUPRIM X GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($2049.00 @ MSI)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh V2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro OEM - DVD 64-bit ($149.99 @ Adorama)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 62 CFM 120 mm Fan
Monitor: Asus ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDM 31.5" 3840 x 2160 240 Hz Monitor ($1799.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $6354.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-01 05:24 EDT-0400


Australian $


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($573.45 @ Amazon Australia)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black 82.51 CFM CPU Cooler ($159.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($444.75 @ Amazon Australia)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($348.00 @ Centre Com)
Storage: Kingston Fury Renegade 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($580.59 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: Kingston Fury Renegade 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($580.59 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: Kingston Fury Renegade 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($580.59 @ Amazon Australia)
Video Card: *MSI SUPRIM X GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($3199.00 @ Centre Com)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh V2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.00 @ Scorptec)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($254.00 @ JW Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro OEM - DVD 64-bit ($184.00 @ Amazon Australia)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 62 CFM 120 mm Fan ($17.77 @ JW Computers)
Monitor: Asus ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDM 31.5" 3840 x 2160 240 Hz Monitor
Total: $7030.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-01 19:25 AEST+1000

 

[Peter Browne]

Is it worth going to Carbon X670E?

 

[letsjam]

B-series motherboards tend to be just fine if you don't need some feature that's locked specifically to X-series. I'm not entirely sure how 600-series works in this vein, though.

I'd recommend getting the D15 with two fans/getting the second fan if you didn't plan on it. Ryzen 7000 runs hot (not dangerously so, and they're intended to go hotter, but still). You can also try the IceGiant Prosiphon Elite, or even go for an AIO.

Lastly: What's the deal with the 3 4TB NVMe drives? I feel like you'd get better value by going with your original plan of HDDs for your archival. A single IronWolf Pro NAS 12TB is the same price as one of your chosen SSDs. Also, if money is no obstacle here (I'm assuming it's not, given your list), a Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus 8TB is probably the most revered SSD on the market right now for consumers. I noticed that it's like $300 more expensive than in the States, but even still. Just don't know if you've considered that drive as an option.

Quite a sick list as-is, though. I'd kill for it

 

[Kaamos_Llama]

Doesnt look like youre short on budget, but you could save a bit of money on the Noctua. There are several aircoolers slightly better and cheaper (highlighted ones) than it now, although its still pretty much the quietest you can get. The temperature difference would be negligible between the coolers in the links, but some of them are half the price.

I think if youre going for that many SSD's youre going to need the PCI-E lanes from an X670 board. You dont need one with a crazy VRM but check which ones have enough features (USB's M2 slot, fan ports) for you. Tomahawk is good, if it has everything you dont have to spend more.

 

[Peter Browne]

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Lastly: What's the deal with the 3 4TB NVMe drives? I feel like you'd get better value by going with your original plan of HDDs for your archival. A single IronWolf Pro NAS 12TB is the same price as one of your chosen SSDs. Also, if money is no obstacle here (I'm assuming it's not, given your list), a Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus 8TB is probably the most revered SSD on the market right now for consumers. I noticed that it's like $300 more expensive than in the States, but even still. Just don't know if you've considered that drive as an option.

Quite a sick list as-is, though. I'd kill for it

One NVMe is dedicated to OS as C drive. The others for games, e.g. BF2042. I'll look at the Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus 8TB for that. I don't think NAS would cut it for games. Though I am also looking at NAS for documents etc.

 

[Peter Browne]

Holly Crap, Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus 8TB in Oz is around $2k

One of the reasons for going NVMe/SSD is I may need to lay the machine on its side, to possibly put it into a cupboard in a bespoke wall unit below or next to a fold down desk (new apartment with limited space for dedicated desks). I think HDDs might not perform reliably on their side due to gravity.

The cupboard door would be mesh, I am now worried about overheating. Perhaps put a fan on the inside of the mesh door?

 

[Why_Me]

I would like comments/suggestions please on the subject rig as detailed below.

Prices US$

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black 82.51 CFM CPU Cooler ($109.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($213.18 @ Amazon)
Memory: *G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Kingston Fury Renegade 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($389.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital WD_BLACK 8 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive ($179.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Western Digital WD_BLACK 8 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive ($179.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI SUPRIM X GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($2049.00 @ MSI)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro OEM - DVD 64-bit ($149.99 @ Adorama)
Monitor: Asus ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDM 31.5" 3840 x 2160 240 Hz Monitor ($1799.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $5759.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-01 03:09 EDT-0400

Prices Australian $

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($573.45 @ Amazon Australia)
CPU Cooler: *Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black 82.51 CFM CPU Cooler ($159.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: *MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($315.23 @ Amazon Australia)
Memory: *G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($198.00 @ Centre Com)
Storage: *Kingston Fury Renegade 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($580.59 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: Western Digital WD_BLACK 8 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive ($301.50 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: *Western Digital WD_BLACK 8 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive ($301.50 @ Amazon Australia)
Video Card: MSI SUPRIM X GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($3199.00 @ Centre Com)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.95 @ Amazon Australia)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($254.00 @ JW Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro OEM - DVD 64-bit ($184.00 @ Amazon Australia)
Monitor: Asus ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDM 31.5" 3840 x 2160 240 Hz Monitor
Total: $6191.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-01 17:10 AEST+1000

What will be the primary uses of your new PC?

 

[Peter Browne]

What will be the primary uses of your new PC?

as per OP title...rig for 4K gaming

 

[Why_Me]

as per OP title...rig for 4K gaming

You want low profile RAM when using a dual tower cpu cooler so that the RAM doesn't impede said cooler. 500GB SSD for Windows and 4TB SSD for storage. 1200W in case of the random gpu power spike. 2x16GB RAM so that you that you don't run into latency issues. DDR5-6000 CL30 is the sweet spot for these AM5 builds. Here's a case that's easier to work with, has loads of space for the 4090 and is probably the most recommended case atm. Replace the 140mm exhaust fan that's included with this case with the 140mm ARGB fan down below if you desire the full effect.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool GAMMAXX AG620 ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.95 @ Adorama)
Motherboard: MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($73.48 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: *Asus TUF GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($1749.99 @ B&H)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($146.90 @ Amazon)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: *Lian Li UNI FAN SL V2 77.6 CFM 140 mm Fan ($29.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: Asus ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDM 31.5" 3840 x 2160 240 Hz Monitor ($1799.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $5104.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-02 03:11 EDT-0400

A better look at those components.

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/396/1673491242/F5-6000J3038F16GX2-FX5

https://us.deepcool.com/products/Co...al-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16088.shtml

https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/4406

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TfR60pM5oU

 

[letsjam]

I don't think NAS would cut it for games.

NAS is just the product lineup. The drive is 7200 RPM.

One of the reasons for going NVMe/SSD is I may need to lay the machine on its side, to possibly put it into a cupboard in a bespoke wall unit below or next to a fold down desk (new apartment with limited space for dedicated desks). I think HDDs might not perform reliably on their side due to gravity.

If that's the only reason, I'd suggest going with SATA SSDs. They're still perfectly fine, especially for your application. They'll saturate a SATA III link easily, and you can get them fairly cheap in higher capacities. That said, HDDs will work fine on their side or upside down, it's just not a good idea to move them while they're powered (especially while they're working on a job).