AMD leaks are teasing a $549 price point for the Radeon RX 9070 XT

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In this video, Steve from GamersNexus points out how an AMD exec said "gamers tend to buy graphics cards under $700", then Steve pulls up the list of the top GPU's according to Steam users, and nearly the entirety of the top 25 consists of cards that were $400 or less when they were new. He makes a joke "you could say that gamers tend to buy graphics cards under one trillion dollars" lol.

He knows that his words and that video won't do any good, but it's a rant that a lot of us have on our minds. As Nvidia gets more and more astronomically expensive, and Intel having all the issues that Intel does, AMD is in the prime position to claim the budget/mid-tier GPU crown, so long as they don't botch the price. Apparently, there has been a lot of internal conflict between AMD execs and the graphics engineering team, with the engineers wanting to aggressively price them as low as they can, while the execs want to keep their formula of "Nvidia minus $50", so there is a huge possibility that this won't happen at all.

At this point, an RTX 5060 could potentially run as high as $500 MSRP, before getting scalped to just under 1K. I really hope that AMD plays dirty this generation and undercuts the competition by a huge margin. Another big thing that Steve argues about in the video is how AMD's GPU market share just keeps shrinking year after year. The latest dataset he pulls up shows AMD having a 10% market share, Nvidia at 90%, and Intel at 0. About 15-20 years ago, it was almost an even 50/50 split between red team and green team. AMD is in the position to gain a larger foothold, but it will most likely not happen.

As someone who is wanting to get a new graphics card in the next year or so, all I can hope for is that these execs realize that most PC gamers, not all, but I would argue most, are a lot like me. Budget conscious, putting value and longevity at the top of our list of what we want in PC hardware. The Steam hardware survey corroborates this claim. I was surprised to see the RTX 2060 in the top 25, and I thought the card I had was relatively unpopular. Even when it was new, it was right around $300 IIRC.

I get that there are so many other factors completely out of the hands of these companies when it comes to pricing, but I also feel that sometimes these companies can be out of touch with your everyday average consumer. A lot of people can easily afford a $2500 graphics card, but do they really want to spend that when you can build an entirely new rig to last a few generations for the same price if not cheaper? Nvidia seems to think that people will throw away this money just because they can afford it, and that is just not the case. Just because you can afford the most expensive item doesn't mean it is the best for you, the person who will actually be using it. Value is a huge factor into building a PC and price isn't the only thing that value stands for.
 

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In this video, Steve from GamersNexus points out how an AMD exec said "gamers tend to buy graphics cards under $700", then Steve pulls up the list of the top GPU's according to Steam users, and nearly the entirety of the top 25 consists of cards that were $400 or less when they were new. He makes a joke "you could say that gamers tend to buy graphics cards under one trillion dollars" lol.

He knows that his words and that video won't do any good, but it's a rant that a lot of us have on our minds. As Nvidia gets more and more astronomically expensive, and Intel having all the issues that Intel does, AMD is in the prime position to claim the budget/mid-tier GPU crown, so long as they don't botch the price. Apparently, there has been a lot of internal conflict between AMD execs and the graphics engineering team, with the engineers wanting to aggressively price them as low as they can, while the execs want to keep their formula of "Nvidia minus $50", so there is a huge possibility that this won't happen at all.

At this point, an RTX 5060 could potentially run as high as $500 MSRP, before getting scalped to just under 1K. I really hope that AMD plays dirty this generation and undercuts the competition by a huge margin. Another big thing that Steve argues about in the video is how AMD's GPU market share just keeps shrinking year after year. The latest dataset he pulls up shows AMD having a 10% market share, Nvidia at 90%, and Intel at 0. About 15-20 years ago, it was almost an even 50/50 split between red team and green team. AMD is in the position to gain a larger foothold, but it will most likely not happen.

As someone who is wanting to get a new graphics card in the next year or so, all I can hope for is that these execs realize that most PC gamers, not all, but I would argue most, are a lot like me. Budget conscious, putting value and longevity at the top of our list of what we want in PC hardware. The Steam hardware survey corroborates this claim. I was surprised to see the RTX 2060 in the top 25, and I thought the card I had was relatively unpopular. Even when it was new, it was right around $300 IIRC.

I get that there are so many other factors completely out of the hands of these companies when it comes to pricing, but I also feel that sometimes these companies can be out of touch with your everyday average consumer. A lot of people can easily afford a $2500 graphics card, but do they really want to spend that when you can build an entirely new rig to last a few generations for the same price if not cheaper? Nvidia seems to think that people will throw away this money just because they can afford it, and that is just not the case. Just because you can afford the most expensive item doesn't mean it is the best for you, the person who will actually be using it. Value is a huge factor into building a PC and price isn't the only thing that value stands for.
Based on recent history, AMD has zero interest in rocking the boat, and will pull out a calculator to figure out exactly what their card would cost if it were an Nvidia card and then sell it for that amount.

We can dream, though. I want that 9070 XT to be the 5070 ti killer. Let Nvidia fart around at the top end doing whatever they want, but stick a bloody dagger in their bread and butter, which is everything below the xx80s.

I talk like a rebel and then I usually end up buying a laptop with an xx80 in it, which is an action that has multiple levels of stupidity attached to it. :rolleyes:

For one thing, every time Nvidia puts out a chip that needs an extra 100 watts, laptops just get further behind because you can only put so much power into a laptop before terrible things happen.

That's why the real hope for all of us is ARM. Thank god Nvidia failed to buy them. Of course I could be mistaken, but doesn't Apple's ARM chip act as both CPU and discrete GPU?
 
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Based on recent history, AMD has zero interest in rocking the boat, and will pull out a calculator to figure out exactly what their card would cost if it were an Nvidia card and then sell it for that amount.

We can dream, though. I want that 9070 XT to be the 5070 ti killer. Let Nvidia fart around at the top end doing whatever they want, but stick a bloody dagger in their bread and butter, which is everything below the xx80s.
That's definitely the dream, but just a dream... :(

That's why the real hope for all of us is ARM. Thank god Nvidia failed to buy them. Of course I could be mistaken, but doesn't Apple's ARM chip act as both CPU and discrete GPU?
You're right about Apple's chips. I see it almost like an APU for budget PCs/laptops. CPU with integrated GPU, and now on the latest iPhones, NPU as well. I'm a bit of an iPhone fanatic so I may be biased in my opinions, but I think it's exciting that Apple is starting to design their own chips again. The latest iPhone 16E features their very first in-house designed modem chip, but no idea how that performs compared to the top dogs over at Qualcomm.
 
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In this video, Steve from GamersNexus points out how an AMD exec said "gamers tend to buy graphics cards under $700", then Steve pulls up the list of the top GPU's according to Steam users, and nearly the entirety of the top 25 consists of cards that were $400 or less when they were new. He makes a joke "you could say that gamers tend to buy graphics cards under one trillion dollars" lol.

He knows that his words and that video won't do any good, but it's a rant that a lot of us have on our minds. As Nvidia gets more and more astronomically expensive, and Intel having all the issues that Intel does, AMD is in the prime position to claim the budget/mid-tier GPU crown, so long as they don't botch the price. Apparently, there has been a lot of internal conflict between AMD execs and the graphics engineering team, with the engineers wanting to aggressively price them as low as they can, while the execs want to keep their formula of "Nvidia minus $50", so there is a huge possibility that this won't happen at all.

At this point, an RTX 5060 could potentially run as high as $500 MSRP, before getting scalped to just under 1K. I really hope that AMD plays dirty this generation and undercuts the competition by a huge margin. Another big thing that Steve argues about in the video is how AMD's GPU market share just keeps shrinking year after year. The latest dataset he pulls up shows AMD having a 10% market share, Nvidia at 90%, and Intel at 0. About 15-20 years ago, it was almost an even 50/50 split between red team and green team. AMD is in the position to gain a larger foothold, but it will most likely not happen.

As someone who is wanting to get a new graphics card in the next year or so, all I can hope for is that these execs realize that most PC gamers, not all, but I would argue most, are a lot like me. Budget conscious, putting value and longevity at the top of our list of what we want in PC hardware. The Steam hardware survey corroborates this claim. I was surprised to see the RTX 2060 in the top 25, and I thought the card I had was relatively unpopular. Even when it was new, it was right around $300 IIRC.

I get that there are so many other factors completely out of the hands of these companies when it comes to pricing, but I also feel that sometimes these companies can be out of touch with your everyday average consumer. A lot of people can easily afford a $2500 graphics card, but do they really want to spend that when you can build an entirely new rig to last a few generations for the same price if not cheaper? Nvidia seems to think that people will throw away this money just because they can afford it, and that is just not the case. Just because you can afford the most expensive item doesn't mean it is the best for you, the person who will actually be using it. Value is a huge factor into building a PC and price isn't the only thing that value stands for.

if AMD plays dirty this generation and undercuts the competition by a really REALLY huge margin...

DAMN!!! I wanna see this happens and see how NVidia reacts

just ONE TIME, just ones :)
 

ZedClampet

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if AMD plays dirty this generation and undercuts the competition by a really REALLY huge margin...

DAMN!!! I wanna see this happens and see how NVidia reacts

just ONE TIME, just ones :)
The only thing that might make me believe this is that Nvidia has been playing dirty by paying developers for baked in hardware ray tracing, which causes developers not to recommend AMD cards under their system requirements and leads some people to believe the games can't be played at all on AMD cards.

Also, does AMD want to forever win the hearts of PC gamers? They could do it.
 

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