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A holodeck would be the ultimate video game console, but...

Humanity as we know it would collapse. No one would get any work done. We'd all be having adventures far more interesting than anything happening here on earth. For the pervs... they will be so addicted they might just... I'm gonna keep that one to myself.

I'm not too familiar with Star Trek. Has anyone ever gotten stuck inside the Holodeck and unable to come back to reality?
 
Red Dwarf covered this in the 80's

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Within the game, the group finds that it makes their deepest desires come true – Cat has Marilyn Monroe and an alternate version of a mermaid (top half fish, bottom half woman) as girlfriends; Lister has wealth, eating caviar-covered vindaloo and playing golf; while Rimmer, with a physical form, leads an admiral's life with drinks, parties, and a wonderful wife.


I read the book, it was better than the episode


they all got trapped in the game as it becomes hard to tell what is real. They had to rescue each other as they got out.

This was before the internet existed so at least they were all in the same ship.

The hardest part would be not starving to death while you played it.
 
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Instead of a holo-deck, just upload your consciousness into a virtual reality you have full control over, so you never have to worry about eating, sleeping or death. At least for as long as you have electricity.
#1. You've clearly never played Soma. You can't upload your consciousness. Best you can do is create a copy of yourself that will live on.

#2. But if you could upload your consciousness, imagine uploading it to a device that can be controlled by Mark Zuckerberg. It would be like all the vault experiments in Fallout.

#3. Run out of electricity? That's what happens when the people in charge of your "eternal" life need to get their stock price up.
 
I missed this post. I would love this! Humanity could handle it, its all about logistics. If we were at that point that holodeck rooms could be built for the average joe youd still have people too poor to have space for a holodeck, so there would be people outside of the holodeck to help keep us from slipping, i would think. Yes youd have people whod live in them. But i live in my "box" already playing fantasy.


I'm not too familiar with Star Trek. Has anyone ever gotten stuck inside the Holodeck and unable to come back to reality?

Yes, there are a couple of different episodes that do touch on this. There is also 1 or 2 episodes where the holodeck becomes infected and takes over the ship its on.
 
I'm not too familiar with Star Trek. Has anyone ever gotten stuck inside the Holodeck and unable to come back to reality?
There is a very good episode from Deep Space Nine that I watched last week that covers this topic called Hard Time (S4.E18). Chief engineer Miles O'Brien gets imprisoned in a virtual holodeck for 20 years and when he returns to the station, he still remembers all the trauma and has to work really hard not to go insane.

It is kind of shivering to think of how it would be to remember all the pain and then suddenly come back to reality and knowing that nobody else knows what you went through because for them you were away for just a few hours in holodeck.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYTAGKbqCE8
 
#1. You've clearly never played Soma. You can't upload your consciousness. Best you can do is create a copy of yourself that will live on.

#2. But if you could upload your consciousness, imagine uploading it to a device that can be controlled by Mark Zuckerberg. It would be like all the vault experiments in Fallout.

#3. Run out of electricity? That's what happens when the people in charge of your "eternal" life need to get their stock price up.

If a company offered to upload your consciousness to a computer to live eternally in a virtual world, I would assume they just kill you (at best) and use a chatbot to convince any remaining relatives you're living your best life in a simulation.
 
Instead of a holo-deck, just upload your consciousness into a virtual reality you have full control over, so you never have to worry about eating, sleeping or death. At least for as long as you have electricity.
Why limit myself to just one?? Load me into a dozen. Have the order of games altered so we can see which order works out best. Then load lots and lots of me's into lots and lots of virtual machines, going through all those games in optimal order, having all that fun!

Oh - and then all the me's will need to upload screenshots here. Let me apologize for the repeats in advance. 😉

P.S. Shades of the Bobiverse....

Chief engineer Miles O'Brien gets imprisoned in a virtual holodeck for 20 years and when he returns to the station, he still remembers all the trauma and has to work really hard not to go insane.
As Spock would say, fascinating. I wonder if he would also still remember yesterday like it was yesterday, or like it was 20 years ago, or maybe like it was 20 years ago at first but more easily after being immersed in the present again... Well, I'm not volunteering for that one.
 
As Spock would say, fascinating. I wonder if he would also still remember yesterday like it was yesterday, or like it was 20 years ago, or maybe like it was 20 years ago at first but more easily after being immersed in the present again... Well, I'm not volunteering for that one.
I noticed when I went back to the episode that I had missed the first few minutes because it was not a holodeck but an inserted virtual memory that worked as a type of virtual prison punishment. So Miles would experience whatever they programmed and the length of it, which was 20 years.

When he got released from the virtual prison, he did indeed experience problems like being shocked that everyone was the same age and he even had some problems (for obvious reasons) getting back to work and even remembering some of the work he had done.

The doctor at the station, Bashir, helps him out with a sedative he has to take for some time, which takes the edge off some of the hallucinations and trauma he feels. He also gets a captain's order to do therapy sessions.
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Going back to the holodeck, there is an episode called Our Man Bashir (S4E9) from Deep Space Nine that is interesting. In this episode, some of the crew disappear while being beamed to the transporter room, while at the same time, Doctor Bashir and a friend of his are on the holodeck doing a James Bond theme.

So the crew that never got beamed into the transporter room correctly has their energy somehow trapped in the holodeck game. The plot then thickens when Bashir is informed that if something were to happen to his crew inside the holodeck game (that has taken roles of some of the enemy), they would also die in real life.

So it is kind of an interesting episode when the holodeck becomes reality while the crew on the station tries to convert the power source and get the people back from inside the holodeck game and back inside the transporter room.

If I also remember correctly, the crew when they came back had no idea they were trapped inside of the holodeck, so they would have potentially died without ever knowing what happened to them.

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I also remember in Star Trek: The Next Generation that some would use the holodeck to try out some romantic fantasies and even use it to test different hypotheses while communicating with holo versions of dead scientists. For me, it seemed that the holodeck would often work in favour of doing different types of combat, practise tennis or similar, romance, visiting an old friend, but there would also be those in TNG who could get a little bit addicted from time to time.


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Going back to the question of "could humanity handle it?" @Zed Clampet, I think an evolved form of humanity would manage to deal with its side effects, but for us to get something like that now would be quite devastating. If by some chance we did get it, I think the only right way to use it would be strictly for scientific purposes or other fields for strengthening humanity and flora/fauna around us.

Obviously, considering how we abuse new technology incredibly fast (AI as the new example) for economic and military purposes, I don't see it as very realistic that we would have been able to keep it in a grounded moral and ethical arena. I guess you could also use the argument that "you have to use the technology to be better at understanding and using it correctly," but it seems to me that most often this is not the case at all; it is not the betterment of humanity, it is the betterment of a very few by manipulating said technology.
 
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