Beginner looking for advise

May 17, 2020
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Hi all, this has more than likely been asked about 506755446 times but here it goes. im looking for some advise with buying a new pc.
im looking to be playing call of duty in as good quality as possible without going overboard on cost.

for example there is someone selling a PC with this spec for just over £300
CIT 7 RGB Case with 2 RGB Fans.
2tb hard drive.
8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 RAM.
Ryzen 5 2600 CPU with Wraith Stealth Cooler.
Gigabyte B450M DS3H motherboard.
Nvidia GTX1050Ti 4GB Graphics Card.

now im wondering wether I could buy something like this and replace parts to make it to a standard of what I want.
Or do I just bite the bullet and attempt to build from scratch.. to which I have no idea!
I don't mind spending a bit of money, but do want to go overkill on when im only going to probably use it for one game.

All advise greatly appreciated.
 

Oussebon

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Don't buy this and replace the parts.

If you buy something you already want to replace, you're basically paying for the same thing twice. And giving yourself more work as well.

If you want to buy 2nd hand, then that's a judgement you need to make. The spec is technically better than what you can get new, but it's 2nd hand so 0 warranty and you've no idea what's been done to it. I wouldn't, not for that kind of money, but it's a personal call.

For self building on a budget you could aim for something with 16gb and an RX 570 (a good step up from a 1050 ti in most games)
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£109.98 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£45.95 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£69.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.78 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 570 8 GB Video Card (£124.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£50.36 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £502.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-18 17:37 BST+0100


I'd probably want an SSD too - 240gb as a minimum, 500gb a bit more of a minimum if you want to put a couple of large games on there (COD can be pretty large).
I picked as case with decent airflow and a PSU that is budget but respectable. Not sure what PSU that 2nd hand one would have.
 
May 17, 2020
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Don't buy this and replace the parts.

If you buy something you already want to replace, you're basically paying for the same thing twice. And giving yourself more work as well.

If you want to buy 2nd hand, then that's a judgement you need to make. The spec is technically better than what you can get new, but it's 2nd hand so 0 warranty and you've no idea what's been done to it. I wouldn't, not for that kind of money, but it's a personal call.

For self building on a budget you could aim for something with 16gb and an RX 570 (a good step up from a 1050 ti in most games)
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£109.98 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£45.95 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£69.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.78 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 570 8 GB Video Card (£124.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£50.36 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £502.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-18 17:37 BST+0100


I'd probably want an SSD too - 240gb as a minimum, 500gb a bit more of a minimum if you want to put a couple of large games on there (COD can be pretty large).
I picked as case with decent airflow and a PSU that is budget but respectable. Not sure what PSU that 2nd hand one would have.

Would that spec you have just posted play Call of duty easily? im happy to spend that if not 100-200 more.
I just want to be able to play the game a good enough quality.
really appreciate the response
 

Oussebon

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It would do fine, depending on the settings you wanted to play on. (I'm assuming COD: Modern Warfare here). You might not get constant 60fps on Ultra, but turn the settings down a bit and you'd likely be fine.

If you wanted to turn the settings up, or have a bit more headroom, especially for other titles, then a GTX 1660 / Super would be a good option.

You could also consider an R5 3600 instead of the 2600. Performance in most games would be very, very, very similar but the 3600 could help with games that are more sensitive to CPU performance.




A 3600, 1660 Super, and 500gb SSD added in would look like:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£155.00 @ Currys PC World)
Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£45.95 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£74.97 @ Laptops Direct)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£59.72 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.78 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card (£227.58 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£50.36 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £715.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-18 19:26 BST+0100
 
May 17, 2020
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It would do fine, depending on the settings you wanted to play on. (I'm assuming COD: Modern Warfare here). You might not get constant 60fps on Ultra, but turn the settings down a bit and you'd likely be fine.

If you wanted to turn the settings up, or have a bit more headroom, especially for other titles, then a GTX 1660 / Super would be a good option.

You could also consider an R5 3600 instead of the 2600. Performance in most games would be very, very, very similar but the 3600 could help with games that are more sensitive to CPU performance.




A 3600, 1660 Super, and 500gb SSD added in would look like:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£155.00 @ Currys PC World)
Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£45.95 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£74.97 @ Laptops Direct)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£59.72 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.78 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card (£227.58 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£50.36 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £715.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-18 19:26 BST+0100
Great help, just wondering 1 more thing, going back to the original post about the 2nd hand one.
is there anything in that spec that would work and I would keep if I could get it at a low price, under 300.
obviously I don’t know how this works but for instance, if I bought that and just changed the graphics card and ram for better would that give me the ability to play modern warfare ?
 

Oussebon

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if I bought that and just changed the graphics card and ram for better

Let's say you get it for £280.

The new GPU is +£230. The SSD you'll want to add, +£60. The RAM, +£75.

So you're at £645 - a saving of £70 over the 2nd spec I posted above. For which you get no warranty on the CPU, mobo, PSU, who-knows-what model of PSU which if it's a bad one could lack basic safety features, and a case with almost no airflow to cool things.

I suppose you can claw back some cash from selling the parts you replace, but that's hassle and there's no guarantee how much you'll get for them, or if a buyer were to rip you off.

I think if you're buying the 2nd hand one, it's to buy it and use it out of the box without replacing a thing, and hope it works - having spent the bare minimum. If it does indeed, it will run COD:MW reasonably well, at least on reduced settings.

However, if you're going to buy it and upgrade it, the small-ish savings don't seem remotely worth the downsides to me.
 

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